Posted on 09/19/2003 5:26:40 AM PDT by veronica
I'm debating whether or not to post it up here on FR as a new thread.
Not to suggest it costs us nothing, but military aid to Israel is required to be spent in the US on US-manufactured goods.
I oppose all non military aid to Israel and want military aid scaled back oiver a period of years.
While I am not sure of the spirit of your comment, I going to do something surprising and agree.
Israel is entirely self-sufficient and does not accountable to anyone but herself.
The welfare payments are wholly unecessary, and one might wonder why they are an issue year after year. The payments beget obligations. Neither is truly necessary.
If Arabs dumped Islam, or radically changed it, I believe they would shock the world with their success.
I oppose all non military aid to Israel and want military aid scaled back oiver a period of years.
It is NOT "Welfare". We get a LOT more in return (In the form of an ally in the Middle East) than what we pay.
I would like to take issue with this.
Democrats could say that public payments are owed to low-income people who live in solidly Repulican states so that they will have "allies" in those areas (actually, this is the exact arguement that they make).
We could say that public assistance is owed in economically depressed areas so that we have "allies" in the area.
Being, or not being, and ally should not depend on bribery. You should want to be an ally because you agree with the political philopshy of the other country. Saying "I am no longer an ally if I do not get X amount of dollars", suggests a false and totally conditional friendship. I don't think that we should have to pay anyone to be our ally. They should do so willingly, and happily, without condition.
Anything beyond this does fall under the conventional definition of welfare, or bribery, or both.
No money should have to change hands between friends, in order for them to remain friends.
That is my humble opinion.
That is my humble opinion.
Well, I look at it differently...
I say we're not "Buying" their friendship, but ensuring they're one BADASS friend in an area over-ran by fanatical enemies.
But thanks for your reasoned and calm opinon.
Are you referring to THESE ISRAELIS??
I think we have more than met that objective. We all know that if they really wanted to, they could own everything within a 500 mile radius of Tel-Aviv. They are plenty "badass".
But thanks for your reasoned and calm opinon.
And yours as well. Actuality usually falls somewhere in between two differing opinions.
In the Economy section, GDP dollar estimates for all countries are derived from purchasing power parity (PPP) calculations rather than from conversions at official currency exchange rates. The PPP method involves the use of standardized international dollar price weights, which are applied to the quantities of final goods and services produced in a given economy. The data derived from the PPP method provide the best available starting point for comparisons of economic strength and well-being between countries.
The CIA think their numbers are good. Don't you believe the numbers you posted?
Outstanding!
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Lets be realistic. I am not a friend of enemies of the United Sates. But despite the pressure some of you feel from me, I am not a racist. A racist is not someone who simply criticizes you. Racism is a derogatory view of your essential nature as human beings, someone who believes that you are inferior by birth, by genetics. Usually a classic racist discriminates by skin color. I do not fit the definition.
And Arab is a full human being physically and spiritually. I see no division in being Arab and being the complete equal of myself or anyone else in the world.
HOWEVER,Arab culture does have major limitations which I have noted. Culture is not race. I can regard your culture as inferor to my own and you are a fool if you think that qualifies me as racist. It just shows you dont know how to think, that your thinking is emotional and sloppy. That is not a racist characteristic, it is a cultural characteristic.
A sloppy mind is your fault or your cultures fault, it is not dependent on your race at all.
Just because I regard you as prone to be sloppy thinkers and ineffective fantasizing Arabs, has nothing to do with your race. Your culture makes you sloppy, your culture makes you fantasizers who cant form solid analytical images of the real world as it actually exists.
You have a mind set which is due to your culture. This mindset is not racial it is cultural. Your culture has conditioned you to hate the Jews. This is inferior,patently so, obviously so and it reveals you are driven by Jealousy of the Jews, envy of the Jews, and FEAR of the Jews.
You are jealous and envious and piss smelling sweat afraid of the Jews because subconsciously you see that the Jews have succeeded in the same environment you have and that they are prosperous and efficient while your own societies are collapsing failures.
You are economically and socially inferior to the Jews.. You hate the Jews because they make you look stupid. You are inferior to them and their economies are superior to yours. Their armies are superior to yours. They are FORTY times more powerful than all of you put together and they are one percent of your size. You ARE inferior and it hurts. You hate their talent and their success. You are standing there right next to them on the same ground with the same resources and you look like a pile of Arab crap. You hate them because they are better than you and their success shows the differences between their culture, their values, and you and yours.
And this is just one small factor. Your religion is based on the Koran and its image of reality has produced what you are.. Your values are based on Islam. Your values have produced your poverty and your complete inability to claim any COMPETENCE in the real world. There isnt a single Moslem country that doesnt slobber all over itself like a retard when confronted by the 21st century.
You want to confront the West, you want to have your Greatness recognized. You are a feeble snarl of oppressive dictatorships with illiteracy and fear and ignorance as your heritage.
The West feels SORRY FOR YOU. The only dependable feeling anyone has for an Arab is pity. And that isnt when we find you murdering children for money like a Shaheed. How much money was Saddam paying for dead Moslem children with bombs strapped to their guts?
You have a rub-rump wank sucking pervert like Arafat who is a duplicitous Thug as a role model. Show me an Arab hero. You dont have a single individual in your whole culture today who inspires anyone with anything except disgust and contempt and pity.
You are impotent people. It is not your race. It is your culture. Your values produce failure. Your entire reality is an escape from responsibility and a fleeing from achievement.
Dont tell me about your financial future either. Your veneer of modernity is about a millimeter thick. It can vanish as soon as the West doesnt supply you with spare parts or repair people.
You didnt invent it and you cant fix it. You are a nutless pointless ghosttown waiting to happen society.
And acting like you are our equals has nothing to do with your race or mine it has everything to do with the fact that your culture is totally incompetent.
You are fifty to a hundred years behind the West. Politically you are back in the 1930s Technologically you are in the fourteenth century and you dont produce anything modern. You buy our culture and think that entitles you to some equality. You are parasites on our abilities.
Socially and economically you are waiting to die. You seek to challenge the values of the West, you attacked the United States, you want nothing more than to have atomic weapons so we will respect you.
You might as well stick a modern pistol in your mouth and pull the trigger if you think that we will ever allow you to have atomic weapons. We will go to war with the first Islamic nation which has an atomic we dont control. It is a sure guarantee of a certain war. You are not fit to stand beside us as equals.
The Jews are, but you arent.
The Jews are like us, they are also different from us, but all things considered thay are our kind and you arent. You are Arabs and you produce nothing of any value..not politically, or socially, or economically, or philosophically.
You are a dead society with dead values. That isnt a racist statement. Its an autopsy of your culture. And I don't hate you, I just don't want you to rot in my gutter so I have to smell it. Go someplace else to die.
What? Please re-read my #57. According to the notes from the CIA World Factbook on "GDP methodology": "In developing countries with weak currencies the exchange rate estimate of GDP in dollars is typically one-fourth to one-half the PPP estimate."
In other words, if you convert Egypt's GDP into dollars at the official exchange rate, it might turn out to be as low as $70 billion instead of $268 billion. That's all.
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