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Look Into The Eye of The Storm: 32 Hours Til Isabel Arrives
NHC | 9-17-03 | my favorite headache

Posted on 09/17/2003 1:45:35 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache

Good Morning Freepers....



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anotheruselesspost; hurricaneisabel; ycantwetalkhurricane
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To: My Favorite Headache
Keep in mind that the afternoon high tide on September 18 for Cape Hatteras is 1:31 pm. If the storm surge hits near that time, the problem will be compounded by the higher tides. I found this information here. The main site is http://www.freetidetables.com.
21 posted on 09/17/2003 2:19:17 AM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell (Pete Rose, but then he fell)
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To: My Favorite Headache
WTNT43 KNHC 170904
TCDAT3
HURRICANE ISABEL DISCUSSION NUMBER 45
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 AM EDT WED SEP 17 2003

REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT AND SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATE THAT ISABEL HAS CHANGED LITTLE IN STRENGTH OR ORGANIZATION DURING THE PAST 6 HR. THE LATEST CENTRAL PRESSURE REPORTED BY THE AIRCRAFT IS 958 MB...AND THE MAXIMUM 700 MB WINDS THUS FAR ARE 103 KT. THE AIRCRAFT IS REPORTING A 25-NM WIDE EYE SIMILAR TO A FEATURE SEEN IN SATELLITE IMAGERY. HOWEVER... THE AIRCRAFT FIXES ARE SOUTHWEST OF THE SATELLITE FIXES...AND THERE IS NO WIND MAXIMUM ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPARENT EYEWALL. INDEED... THE RADIUS OF MAXIMUM WINDS IS 50-70 NM. THE MAXIMUM WINDS REMAIN 95 KT FOR THIS ADVISORY.

THE INITIAL MOTION IS NOW 335/8. THERE IS NO CHANGE IN THE FORECAST TRACK PHILOSOPHY FROM THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY. ISABEL SHOULD CONTINUE TO TRACK GENERALLY NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD BETWEEN A DEEP- LAYER RIDGE OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC AND A DEVELOPING MID/UPPER- LEVEL TROUGH OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES. THE DYNAMICAL MODELS ARE VERY TIGHTLY CLUSTERED AROUND A LANDFALL IN EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA IN ABOUT 36 HR...AND THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THIS GUIDANCE. AFTER LANDFALL...ISABEL SHOULD TRACK NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD OR PERHAPS NORTHWESTWARD FOR 12 HR OR SO...THEN RECURVE NORTHWARD AND NORTHEASTWARD IN FRONT OF THE STRONG DEEP- LAYER TROUGH MOVING EASTWARD ACROSS THE NORTHERN UNITED STATES. THE NEAR-UNANIMOUS GUIDANCE MAKES THIS A HIGH CONFIDENCE FORECAST...BUT THOSE AWAY FROM THE FORECAST TRACK SHOULD NOT LET DOWN THEIR GUARD JUST IN CASE THE GUIDANCE PROVES TO BE UNANIMOUSLY WRONG.

THE INTENSITY FORECAST REMAINS VERY PROBLEMATIC. ISABEL CURRENTLY LACKS A TIGHT CENTRAL CORE AND STRONG CONVECTION...AND EVEN IN FAVORABLE CONDITIONS WOULD LIKELY BE SLOW TO INTENSIFY. VERTICAL SHEAR AND POSSIBLY DRY AIR STILL SEEM TO BE AFFECTING THE SYSTEM...SO ANY SIGNIFICANT STRENGTHENING WOULD LIKELY HAVE TO WAIT FOR AT LEAST 12 HR UNTIL THE NEGATIVELY-TILTED SHORTWAVE TROUGH DEVELOPS OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES AND IMPROVES THE OUTFLOW. EVEN THEN...THERE IS A QUESTION OF WHETHER THE SHEAR WILL DECREASE ENOUGH TO ALLOW STRENGTHENING. AN ADDITIONAL COMPLICATION IS A SURFACE FRONT BETWEEN ISABEL AND THE NORTH CAROLINA COAST... WITH OBSERVATIONS IN THE HURRICANE WARNING AREA OF COOL AIR WITH DEWPOINTS BELOW 20C. INGESTING THAT AIR WOULD LIKELY INHIBIT STRENGTHENING. THE INTENSITY FORECAST WILL REMAIN 95 KT UNTIL LANDFALL BASED MAINLY ON THE PREMISE THAT THE LARGE AND SPRAWLING VORTEX WILL BE SLOW TO RESPOND TO CHANGES IN THE ENVIRONMENT... EITHER FAVORABLE OR UNFAVORABLE. HOWEVER...OTHER POSSIBLE SCENARIOS INCLUDE STRENGTHENING DUE TO FORCING FROM THE TROUGH... AND WEAKENING DUE TO VERTICAL SHEAR AND COLD AIR INTRUSION.

FORECASTER BEVEN FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 17/0900Z 29.4N 72.2W 95 KT
12HR VT 17/1800Z 30.8N 73.0W 95 KT
24HR VT 18/0600Z 33.0N 74.6W 95 KT
36HR VT 18/1800Z 35.2N 76.4W 95 KT...INLAND
48HR VT 19/0600Z 38.2N 78.2W 60 KT...INLAND
72HR VT 20/0600Z 46.5N 78.5W 35 KT...INLAND
EXTRATROPICAL 96HR VT 21/0600Z 57.5N 69.5W 30 KT...INLAND
EXTRATROPICAL 120HR VT 22/0600Z...MERGED WITH EXTRATROPICAL LOW

22 posted on 09/17/2003 2:19:41 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Which one will lose? Depends on what I choose or maybe which voice...I ignore.)
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To: glock rocks
Sorry about the link. I thought FR automatically linked addresses. I can't wait to see the picture this morning.
23 posted on 09/17/2003 2:21:37 AM PDT by freedom4ever
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To: My Favorite Headache
This hurricane is so big!Thanks for the "reporting".Stay safe to all in the path.
24 posted on 09/17/2003 2:23:26 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: exnavy
You might just get it...


25 posted on 09/17/2003 2:24:40 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Which one will lose? Depends on what I choose or maybe which voice...I ignore.)
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
My hubby boarded up our home on the Chesapeake yesterday and spent 3 hours preparing and moving the boat to an uncovered slip at the marina. That may assure us that the storm will miss .... : )
26 posted on 09/17/2003 2:28:12 AM PDT by DooDahhhh
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
My hubby boarded up our home on the Chesapeake yesterday and spent 3 hours preparing and moving the boat to an uncovered slip at the marina. That may assure us that the storm will miss .... : )
27 posted on 09/17/2003 2:28:39 AM PDT by DooDahhhh
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
My hubby boarded up our home on the Chesapeake yesterday and spent 3 hours preparing and moving the boat to an uncovered slip at the marina. That may assure us that the storm will miss .... : )
28 posted on 09/17/2003 2:30:12 AM PDT by DooDahhhh
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To: DooDahhhh

29 posted on 09/17/2003 2:30:36 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Which one will lose? Depends on what I choose or maybe which voice...I ignore.)
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To: freedom4ever
there's a link in #15. still dark there.

Boy, the surf started getting happy yesterday afternoon when compared to the day before... it'll be interesting to watch in the upcoming days (if the power stays on).
30 posted on 09/17/2003 2:31:52 AM PDT by glock rocks
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
My hubby boarded up our home on the Chesapeake yesterday and spent 3 hours preparing and moving the boat to an uncovered slip at the marina. That may assure us that the storm will miss .... : )
31 posted on 09/17/2003 2:32:48 AM PDT by DooDahhhh
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To: glock rocks

32 posted on 09/17/2003 2:34:24 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Which one will lose? Depends on what I choose or maybe which voice...I ignore.)
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To: DooDahhhh
I see the posting gremlins are still around!I know it's a pain but better safe than sorry.Good luck!
33 posted on 09/17/2003 2:34:37 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: My Favorite Headache
Just did a very interesting exercise. If you have Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004, you can load actual weather which is updated automatically every 15 min. then you grab you a Cessna 172 in Wilmington, NC, take off and head into the storm. On the simulation it is really there and you can experience the weather deterioating as you head southeast. Kind of gives you a general idea what the hurricane hunter aircraft experience. They sure get a lot out a $50.00 program now days.
34 posted on 09/17/2003 2:42:12 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (Feeling my age, but wanting to feel older)
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To: DooDahhhh
That may assure us that the storm will miss .... : )

Nah...it's coming. Unless my eyes deceive me, the track has shifted back toward the east in the MD/WVa area. You will be glad you took those precautions.

35 posted on 09/17/2003 2:43:56 AM PDT by aBootes (... 15 mi north of D.C.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Date Time Tide Type Height

Avon, North Carolina
2003-09-16 6:07 PM EDT Low Tide 0.50 feet
2003-09-16 11:53 PM EDT High Tide 2.08 feet
2003-09-17 5:52 AM EDT Low Tide 0.36 feet
2003-09-17 12:31 PM EDT High Tide 2.70 feet
2003-09-17 7:04 PM EDT Low Tide 0.59 feet
2003-09-18 12:46 AM EDT High Tide 1.91 feet
2003-09-18 6:40 AM EDT Low Tide 0.46 feet
Beaufort, Duke Marine Lab, North Carolina

2003-09-16 6:53 PM EDT Low Tide 0.96 feet
2003-09-17 12:44 AM EDT High Tide 2.86 feet
2003-09-17 6:35 AM EDT Low Tide 0.78 feet
2003-09-17 1:14 PM EDT High Tide 3.32 feet
2003-09-17 7:51 PM EDT Low Tide 1.07 feet
2003-09-18 1:28 AM EDT High Tide 2.74 feet
Cape Hatteras (fishing pier), North Carolina (3)

2003-09-16 6:08 PM EDT Low Tide 1.00 feet
2003-09-16 11:45 PM EDT High Tide 2.62 feet
2003-09-17 5:48 AM EDT Low Tide 0.84 feet
2003-09-17 12:23 PM EDT High Tide 3.28 feet
2003-09-17 7:01 PM EDT Low Tide 1.12 feet
2003-09-18 12:30 AM EDT High Tide 2.45 feet
2003-09-18 6:35 AM EDT Low Tide 0.89 feet
Cape Hatteras (fishing pier), North Carolina

2003-09-16 6:14 PM EDT Low Tide 0.92 feet
2003-09-16 11:59 PM EDT High Tide 2.59 feet
2003-09-17 5:56 AM EDT Low Tide 0.81 feet
2003-09-17 12:35 PM EDT High Tide 3.24 feet
2003-09-17 7:09 PM EDT Low Tide 1.06 feet
2003-09-18 12:47 AM EDT High Tide 2.44 feet
2003-09-18 6:43 AM EDT Low Tide 0.90 feet
Morehead City, North Carolina

2003-09-16 6:38 PM EDT Low Tide 0.93 feet
2003-09-17 12:29 AM EDT High Tide 2.79 feet
2003-09-17 6:34 AM EDT Low Tide 0.76 feet
2003-09-17 1:09 PM EDT High Tide 3.29 feet
2003-09-17 7:32 PM EDT Low Tide 1.08 feet
2003-09-18 1:20 AM EDT High Tide 2.70 feet

36 posted on 09/17/2003 2:46:34 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Which one will lose? Depends on what I choose or maybe which voice...I ignore.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
From the looks of the 11pm track map it seems the entire Chesapeake Bay area of VA and MD is poised to become a Red Zone within the next 24 hours.

This is a stunning political turnaround.
37 posted on 09/17/2003 2:54:54 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: My Favorite Headache
Guess not huh
38 posted on 09/17/2003 2:55:59 AM PDT by DooDahhhh
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To: Rebelbase
This is a stunning political turnaround.

Tom Brokaw has now ruled a Chesapeake Bay strike "Too Close to Call". We won't know for sure for another 36 days, pending a ruling from the Florida Supreme Court and subsequent appeal to the USSC.

Liberals will complain that residents of Maryland, Delaware, and New Jersey are being disenfranchised, deprived of their constitutional right to be drowned by a Category 3 hurricane.

Jesse Jackson will complain that Jeb Bush prevented black weathermen from obtaining weather information before the last official hurricane update. He will then rent a mob to pour duct tape, plywood, toilet paper, milk, and bread into the Chesapeake in protest.

The lingering perception of DelMarVa residents will be that North Carolingians 'stole' the hurricane. "Selected, not deflected" will be their rallying cry.

Now how's THAT for carrying a metaphor too far?

39 posted on 09/17/2003 3:06:28 AM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell (Pete Rose, but then he fell)
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
On the bright side, I think there will be enough wind to blow away all the hanging chads.
40 posted on 09/17/2003 3:13:37 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (Feeling my age, but wanting to feel older)
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