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To: nmh
What did he purpose as the action to take after 9/11? Give peace a chance with terorists who want to kill us all and managed to murder ~3,000 innocent people? Do these entertainers EVER think?

Lately I'm feeling as thought the left is winning the propaganda war. Earlier I was listening to what is usually an all-sports-all-the-time radio station. This morning the host chose to focus on 9/11, the aftermath and how callers feel today. I was totally shocked to hear callers (sports fans from NY and NJ) criticizing the administration and blaming our foreign policy. I don't understand -- is there any hope for the country to fight this war on terrorism when the very people in the tri-state area who were directly attacked have already forgotten?

218 posted on 09/14/2003 6:06:16 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN
As a Republican district leader and State Committeeman for the New York City and NY State GOP organizations, I obviously don't like Bruce Springsteen's politics. He's done some decent things now and then on issues like food banks and hunger and he seems to be a person willing to help individuals who are hurting. But this is the issue: if you know an entertainer has a certain viewpoint and that he or she tends to spout this viewpoint in public, should you pay your money to see him or simply boycott the perfomer?

Since about 1970, I have attended over 300 major rock concerts, covering groups from America to ZZ Top, with many stops inbetween. Most of the shows I have seen have NOT had political outbursts in the middle, but some have, including those by Mr. Springsteen, U2 and The Alarm.

Free speech is NOT the issue. Of course Mr. Springsteen can say what he wants at his shows or elsewhere. But will that fan sitting in nosebleed seats at a Springsteen show ALSO be able to be heard? It is NOT so much a question of free speech rather one of access. If you are famous, if you are rich, if you are a cultural icon, you are obviously going to have more access to the media than the average Joe Blow. That is why Free Republic, to a degree, levels the playing field. I could send this message to one friend, sure, but hopefully many people are now able to read this post, so I am getting SOME access to the public. But not as much as Springsteen can have all the time.

By the way, here is a multiple choice question I have for my Free Republic friends.

If Bruce Springsteen joined either a Free Republic thread
or a conservative chat room on the NET, dealing with
ANY major topic or policy, how long do you think he could hold his own, before he realized he was going, down, down, down and NOT experiencing any Glory Days?

A) indefinitely
B) 1 hour
C) 5 Minutes
D) he knows not to even join becuase he knows he would
get creamed (he's really not terribly bright)

Anyway, I love rock music, the excitement, the music, the energy. I don't always like the politics of some of the performers views on politcal and social issues. I have seen Springsteen live in concert about 10 times. He is a marvelous performer. I am not going to call him a has-been or put down his music because of his iditotic remarks on BUSH or anything else. I go to his shows for the great music, but there is a bit of the lousy politics, too. One could say, I am a very tolerant person, in that I pay money for someone whose politics I don't like. Or maybe, I am a hypocrite. How can you call yourself a conservative, a good American, NEWYORKCCITYGOPMAN, when you pay your hard-earned money to fund such left wing artists as Bruce, U2 and Chrissie Hynde, not to mention the Clash?

So if we like a rock performer, but we don't like his politics, should we go to the shows as I do, or just NOT go? I think, if one has deep principles, as I feel I do, and I know most of my Free Republic friends do, too, maybe we should NOT attend the shows of such artists. And similarly, maybe we should only attend the shows of artists whose views are similar to ours, like Ted Nugent.

In July Springsteen was boasting that a lot of different political views are shared by fans at his shows, and he liked that. I guess he's not saying that now. I'm supposed to see him at Shea Stadium in October, but maybe I should give this one some thought.




226 posted on 09/14/2003 7:03:49 AM PDT by NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN
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To: freeperfromnj
I don't mean to be a downer but I don't think there is alot of hope. As kids in public schools are being conditioned to despsise guns and boys feminized and in general dumbed down except to be EXTREMELY emotional ... WHO will join the military? WHO will stand up for is RIGHT? WHO will THINK? WHAT will they think - passific (sp) socialism is what I see in the future along with NO moral compass or rather anything is permissible but what is right. Convince me I'm wrong. It's especially scary when ALOT of parents buy into to this and reinforce this crap at home - all believing that they are righteous citizens for John Lennon's world - imagine ... .
373 posted on 09/16/2003 8:21:14 AM PDT by nmh
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