Illegal immigrant soldier, back from Iraq, faces possible deportation

registerguard.com ^ | 12 Sep 03 | AP

[Ajnin]

He needs to be deported ASAP.

[Ajnin]

When soldiers get DUI's in the states after serving in combat do we forgive them? No we don't. USC vets are treated just like anybody else when they break the law. Illegal aliens should be treated the same and not given special treatment.

[BeerSwillr]

Yep, that is exactly what's going on here.

[Poohbah]

There is the issue of fraudulent enlistment. But even that can be overlooked by honorable service. I had a Gunnery Sergeant who fraudulently enlisted to go to Vietnam (underage--16). They didn't catch it until he was almost ready to retire. The JAG decided to not file charges, as he'd done much in his 20 years--not just combat, but risking his life on search and rescue missions, and he did a fine job of training Marines during two DI tours at Parris Island.

[No Truce With Kings]

This is a no-brainer. Anyone who volunteers for the Army, then volunteers for combat, serves in combat, and keeps his nose clean while in the Army deserves to remain in the Armed Forces of the United States, and become a citizen. I really don't care how he got there. This is the type of service that earns you an exception to the rules.

As for those "rules are rules" types that cannot see why this kid merits an exception? Consider a job in public education. People with no brains get to be administrators all the time. It's the perfect place for people who don't care to think.
except, of course to those with no brains.

[FITZ]

Yes --- out of all the millions they could be deporting, they'll take the one who would defend this country. Why not look for some of the welfare mothers or criminal types instead?

[FITZ]

If anything amnesty should be earned ---- we gave amnesty to plenty who have never done a single thing for the USA ---- this case is a little different. There should be a reform of the immigration laws anyhow --- let a worthy type stay and instead block some of those coming for the SSI and other handouts.

[hchutch]

One issue with the deportation frenzy:

His age at the time of entry: I do not think there is ANY jurisdiction in this country, or even the world, that could consider a four-year old to know he is breaking the law. I do not think a four-year-old is capable of forming criminal intent.

The parents ought to be deported and told to do it the right way, but deporting someone who served honorably in Iraq takes this too far. Some folks deserve to be cut a little slack, and this soldier is one of them.

[Poohbah]

Agreed.

The question is...

How to solve the illegal immigration issue in the long-term?

I'm starting to lean toward "regime change" in Mexico, and forcibly drag that country out of feudalism and into the 21st century.

[Michael121]

Audie Murphy THE MOST Decorated Soldier in WWII comes to mind. Lied about his age. And he won the MOH.

[Michael121]

Keep the kid. Deport the Democrats. At least this kid knows what Pride means. He knows what duty means. He knows what America means. He is what America is all about. Come from somewhere else but love it here. Many Immigrants fought in two World Wars for America, they were granted citizenship. This kid needs oour support.

[agrace]

They own a three-bedroom house.

Outrageous. Probably got a HUD loan too.

[bicycle thug]

Good post. This is a sin of omission and truth shading that is forgivable. In the basic NCO course all young buck sergeants go through, we covered the aspect of leadership whereby one decides if a trooper is a cull or worth their salt enough to retain. He cares to serve, is competitive, and basically honest or he never would have come clean.

I say keep him.

[freedumb2003]

Yes --- out of all the millions they could be deporting, they'll take the one who would defend this country. Why not look for some of the welfare mothers or criminal types instead?

Maybe he should desert and knock up some other illegal, move the whole family to Mexifornia.

THEN he will be welcomed into the USA with open arms -- free money, free health care, free schools, free university, instant valid identity, voting rights

What a putz this guy was. Trying to prove his worth by service to his adopted country. Integrity and valor are for suckers. (/sarcasm)

[freedumb2003]

Yes --- out of all the millions they could be deporting, they'll take the one who would defend this country. Why not look for some of the welfare mothers or criminal types instead?

Maybe he should desert and knock up some other illegal, move the whole family to Mexifornia.

THEN he will be welcomed into the USA with open arms -- free money, free health care, free schools, free university, instant valid identity, voting rights

What a putz this guy was. Trying to prove his worth by service to his adopted country. Integrity and valor are for suckers. (/sarcasm)

[freedumb2003]

The dreaded double post

The dreaded double post

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

I think HiJinx nailed it at #16. He'll be staying.

I'd take a thousand more like him as a trade for the current Democrats in DC.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

If I remember correctly when a foreign national served in the US Military they were then automaticly considered to be a citizen. Has something changed?

[PatrioticAmerican]

So that is it, huh? Lie, cheat, or steal, just serve and citizenship is gauranteed?

[rangerwife]

Yep, I've seen it all and heard it all in regards to recruiting. Hubby is on recruiting duty. Only 68 days left!!!!! Yay!!! Lots and lots of crazy stuff goes on. I will also say though just from what I hear from my husband is that they put so much BS on the recruiters that it is very time consuming just to put one person in. Also, it depends on others...he had a guy's packet sitting up at their Battalion for the past 2 mos because the ops sgts didn't want to work on the waiver. Plus, the MEPS tends to throw a lot of roadblocks up too. This job has been very stressful for him. He's been pretty successful, but it has been a trying (almost) 3 years and we're both ready to get outta here!