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To: Sursum Corda
If that is so, how can you so cavalierly reject Catholic discipline? Were you not required to assert fidelity to both Catholic teaching and Catholic discipline?

I promised to remain celibate if my wife dies, but I never had to assent to never disagreeing with mandatory celibacy for priests.

The practice is a discipline, much like "the pledge" not to drink for five years that was administered to newly-ordained priests in the 40s and 50s. They didn't sin by taking a drink (indeed, many did), and I don't sin by questioning mandatory celibacy, especially since I, myself, am an exception to it for Holy Orders.

92 posted on 09/10/2003 8:44:33 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! You'll save at least one life, maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
An analogy might be made to serving in the Marine Corps. When I was a Marine, I was, naturally enough, under rigorous discipline. There were some aspects of that discipline that I disagreed with because I believed that they did not accomplish their stated purpose, or that their stated purpose was in conflict with the overall mission of the Marine Corps. I expressed my disagreement with certain orders from higher headquarters, even as I complied with them to the fullest extent and ensured that the Marines I had authority over did so as well.

My efforts resulted in several counterproductive policies being done away with or revised, and I am content that I contributed to my Marine Corps becoming a more effective fighting force because of those policy changes.

104 posted on 09/10/2003 8:54:16 PM PDT by Poohbah (Hee Haw was supposed to be a television show...not the basis of a political movement...)
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To: sinkspur
Good evening, Deacon:

How does supporting a candidate like Arnold who is an apostate Catholic just like Bustamante and Doofus for supporting abortion and homosexuality square with Catholic doctrine like Evangelium Vitae? Is it like supporting gay rights? What happens if the Catholics return to take over the Fort Worth Chancery after Delaney is gone?

138 posted on 09/10/2003 9:52:40 PM PDT by BlackElk (Lakota Nation never legalized abortion, except the post-natal kind for Custer.)
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