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To: tpaine
The concept of an 'all powerful state', one that can ignore our constitutions restrictions, has always been a product of the states rights movement in america.

Meditate on that statement until you figure out how totally wrongside-out it is, then get back to us.

.....and flowered in Roosevelts big government 'new deal'; which was bought to power by a coalition between leftist labor & states rightist political interests.

The coalition was unnatural and ephemeral and dissolved almost immediately when FDR's political maintenance of it ceased with his death. The coalition was FDR's creature, as he recognized the need to keep the South in the Democratic Party, despite the Party's having been almost 100% taken over by urban ethnic liberals and socialists like himself in 1928, with the nomination of Al Smith -- a Tammany Hall urban Democrat, and Roosevelt's predecessor as governor of New York.

The needs, composition, and agenda of the Southern Democrats and the urban, Northern Democrats could not have been more different. Imagine a donkey and a cow split in two and one half of each carcass sewn to one half of the other, with the head of Bernard Baruch sewn on one end: that was the Democratic Party in the 1930's.

93 posted on 09/09/2003 3:38:10 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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Troll alert PING.........

The history-washing machine is on spin cycle again....

103 posted on 09/09/2003 5:16:23 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
The concept of an 'all powerful state', one that can ignore our constitutions restrictions, has always been a product of the states rights movement in america.

Meditate on that statement until you figure out how totally wrongside-out it is, then get back to us.

[No need.. You haven't made a rebuttal, -- it's just a dumb wisecrack.]

.....and flowered in Roosevelts big government 'new deal'; which was bought to power by a coalition between leftist labor & states rightist political interests.

The coalition was unnatural and ephemeral and dissolved almost immediately when FDR's political maintenance of it ceased with his death.

Not so. It exists within our socalled two party system. Now and then a Nixon type makes it ~really~ evident.

The coalition was FDR's creature, as he recognized the need to keep the South in the Democratic Party, despite the Party's having been almost 100% taken over by urban ethnic liberals and socialists like himself in 1928, with the nomination of Al Smith -- a Tammany Hall urban Democrat, and Roosevelt's predecessor as governor of New York. The needs, composition, and agenda of the Southern Democrats and the urban, Northern Democrats could not have been more different. Imagine a donkey and a cow split in two and one half of each carcass sewn to one half of the other, with the head of Bernard Baruch sewn on one end: that was the Democratic Party in the 1930's.

Yada, yada, -- typical republocratic agit-prop...
The dual-party system takes turns socializing america while ignoring our constitution. - End of story.

130 posted on 09/09/2003 9:15:51 AM PDT by tpaine ( I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but politics keep getting in me way. ArnieRino for Governator!)
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