Golf and its Growing Popularity

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[Phantom Lord]

To build a Muni in a major city these days would probably be pretty financially stupid. The cost of the land alone would would be absurd. Stadiums are much more logical choices. Even if it doesn't turn a profit, it's far more likely to.

If they were likely to, at least a handful would have. None have. And government has the one tool that private business doesnt. Force. They can just use eminent domain to get the land and keep their cost down.

[PhilipFreneau]

>> Unless you are playing a very short course and hit every shot straight, you are walking far more than 5 miles. A 7,000 yard course is 4.35 miles and that is measured in perfectly staight and level distances and doesnt measure distance between tees. You go up, down, and sideways in your adventures on the course. I would put you at over 6 miles when all is said and done.

On the longer courses I agree. By taking into consideration some of the shorter courses I play I figured at least 5 miles.

[Grando Calrissian]

Apologies. Mentally substituted revenues for benefits.

In the end, that's the central argument regarding the construction of any major public structure like a stadium, Increased Tax Revenues v. Benefits to the City. Fortunately, more cities and teams are working out alternate deals when it comes to new stadium construction. Pacific Bell Park was financed privately, and the new baseball parks in St. Louis and Boston will be more privately financed than publically, which is definitely a step in the right direction. Any city that would 100% finance and build a stadium for a professional sports franchise is foolish.

[Protagoras]

True, but that's because no city 100% operates a stadium facility the same way it operates a golf course.

I know, I can never find the beer cart when I want one. And that filing in one foursome every ten minutes delays the game quite a bit.

[Psycho_Bunny]

A more logical choice would be for government to stay out of the entertainment business altogether.

Well....that sort of goes without saying but, as the people of Seattle discovered, it's all but completely impossible to keep government out of the stadium business.

When the city was contemplating building the new Mariners stadium, the bond went up for public vote and the people of Seattle voted the bond down.

Then the State Legislature stepped in and issued the bond anyway...forcing a Seattle tax increase to pay for it.

And when the time came for a bond vote on the Seahawks Stadium, the issue was put on the State-wide ballot, instead of the County ballot.

Once again, King County/Seattle voted it down....but the rest of the State passed it.

And Seattle, once again, is paying for it.

[stevestras]

Phantom Lord, you are a racist, liar and idiot.

IMHO.

[Protagoras]

Any city that would 100% finance and build a stadium for a professional sports franchise is foolish.

Not to mention socialistic.

[Grando Calrissian]

You're lucky, the muni in Oakland allows fivesomes, and the beer is always Coors and always 72 degrees.

[Grando Calrissian]

People will do strange things when they're being blackmailed.

[SoothingDave]

Its gotta be less than 500 yards. Daly couldnt hit it that far no matter how many times he tried.

It took him 2 or 3 shots to do it. Even if not super long, it was a good publicity stunt for whatever he was hawking.

SD

[Protagoras]

And Seattle, once again, is paying for it.

Too bad they don't all vote as a block and unelect the socialists who forced it upon them. Then they should vote a state constitutional amendment to prevent their government from doing things beyond the scope of their true purpose.

[SoothingDave]

You're lucky, the muni in Oakland allows fivesomes, and the beer is always Coors and always 72 degrees.

You like warm beer?

SD

[Protagoras]

It took him 2 or 3 shots to do it.

I hit it 500 yds all the time in three shots, sometimes in two. :^}

[Grando Calrissian]

I didn't think I was praising my situation. Selling warm Coors should carry a heavier sentence than selling heroin.

[Protagoras]

I meant in stadiums if they were run like golf courses. I guess I wiffed in making that clear.

[Protagoras]

Selling warm Coors should carry a heavier sentence than selling heroin.

I think they should have the same sentence, zero. But that for a different thread.

[SoothingDave]

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were saying the weather was nice and I was joking that the beer was 72 degrees. Little did I know you were serious. ;-)

SD

[Protagoras]

People will do strange things when they're being blackmailed.

When people are being blackmailed they turn into socialists?

[Grando Calrissian]

I'm pretty dense.

[Protagoras]

I'm pretty dense.

LOL, so are the trees I usually have to play my second shot from.