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To: TheFrog
Read this before you disagree with me on the first amendment.
33 posted on 08/31/2003 9:15:20 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: farmfriend
A) The Federalist, esp Madison, did not want a “Bill of Rights”, and believed that power should be centralized in the Federal Government i.e. the Federal part of Federalist.
B) If we are going to talk about Madison lets remember that he was a “staunch republican to whom any suggestion of monarchy, hereditary aristocracy, dictator ship, or control of politics by the church was not even worth discussing” “Madison: On the Separation of Church and State”
C) Some have quoted Federalist 45 out of context. As to the power of the States in a Federalist context start at Federalist 39 and read past 45. Pay particular attention to Federalist 44.

D) Madison to Congress, June 8, 1789 . "I think there is more danger of those powers being abused by the state governments than by the government of the United States. The same may be said of other powers which they possess, if not controlled by the general principle, that laws are unconstitutional which infringe the rights of the community. I should therefore wish to extend this interdiction, and add, as I have stated in the 5th resolution, that no state shall violate the equal right of conscience, freedom of the press, or trial by jury in criminal cases; because it is proper that every government should be disarmed of powers which trench upon those particular rights. I know in some of the state constitutions the power of the government is controlled by such a declaration, but others are not. I cannot see any reason against obtaining even a double security on those points; and nothing can give a more sincere proof of the attachment of those who opposed this constitution to these great and important rights, than to see them join in obtaining the security I have now proposed; because it must be admitted, on all hands, that the state governments are as liable to attack these invaluable privileges as the general government is, and therefore ought to be as cautiously guarded against."

Now you were saying the intent was ???
39 posted on 09/01/2003 8:40:12 AM PDT by TheFrog
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