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To: tame
When Lincoln ignored the SCOTUS ruling that blacks were "inferior beings" he was not ignoring the constitution. Rather, the SCOTUS was wrong.

There is a false analogy. God's law directly commands us to treat all humans with dignity. It does not command us to place the Ten Commandments in a courtroom. The Christian is only allowed to violate the ruling authorities if obeying them would violate God's law. That is simply not the case here.

115 posted on 08/29/2003 8:17:00 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: Thane_Banquo
There is a false analogy.

No. Actually it's the perfect anaology since it is right on point with what we are speaking of.

God's law directly commands us to treat all humans with dignity.

So you agree with us then that some judicial decisions are to be ignored at times?

The Christian is only allowed to violate the ruling authorities...

Judge Moore is not violating the ruling authorities (see my above post re: definition of "governing authorities")

...if obeying them would violate God's law....

The whole point is that it is the judges that ruled the ten commandments removed who are not submitting to the governing authorities. Remember, Judge Moore is correct. The other judges who want the ten commandments removeed are not following the constitution (which is part of our "governing authority").

Judge Moore is not required by God to submit to ungodly, unconstitutional judicial decisions, which, BTW, do, in fact, violate God's laws (they put aside Gods instructions to glorify him, and instead folow the precepts of secular humanism. I argue this is a violation of Gods laws).

But you admitted that the courts are sometimes wrong (as in Dred Scott). In fact the courts are wrong with regard to the constitutionality of the 10 commandments

117 posted on 08/29/2003 8:41:09 AM PDT by tame (If I must be the victim of a criminal, please let it be Catwoman! Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!)
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To: Thane_Banquo
God's law directly commands us to treat all humans with dignity...The Christian is only allowed to violate the ruling authorities if obeying them would violate God's law.

So then you would admit that the President would be correct to set aside abortion laws (for instance, the SCOTUS recent decision to strike down a states rights to outlaw partial birth abortion--analogous to Dred Scott law) since all humans should be treated with dignity, thus the abortion laws violate Gods laws?

119 posted on 08/29/2003 8:46:19 AM PDT by tame (If I must be the victim of a criminal, please let it be Catwoman! Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!)
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To: Thane_Banquo
The Christian is only allowed to violate the ruling authorities if obeying them would violate God's law

Acts 4:5-21

5 And it came to pass on the morrow, that their rulers, and elders, and scribes, 6 And Annas the high priest, and Caiaphas, and John, and Alexander, and as many as were of the kindred of the high priest, were gathered together at Jerusalem. 7 And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this? 8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel, 9 If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole; 10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus. 14 And beholding the man which was healed standing with them, they could say nothing against it. 15 But when they had commanded them to go aside out of the council, they conferred among themselves, 16 Saying, What shall we do to these men? for that indeed a notable miracle hath been done by them is manifest to all them that dwell in Jerusalem; and we cannot deny it. 17 But that it spread no further among the people, let us straitly threaten them, that they speak henceforth to no man in this name. 18 And they called them, and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus. 19 But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye. 20 For we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard. 21 So when they had further threatened them, they let them go, finding nothing how they might punish them, because of the people: for all men glorified God for that which was done.

123 posted on 08/29/2003 8:53:25 AM PDT by quack
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