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Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:
Various ^ | August 28, 2003

Posted on 08/28/2003 5:20:42 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

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To: syriacus
Note to self:

Have heard, from a published bio, that Judge G. W. Greer was born in NY, and his family moved to FL when he was young. He grew up in Dunedin.

It seems that GWG's family also has a PA connection, like Terri's family.

It looks like GWG's father (Arthur A.) and GWG's Grandparents (Wilbur(t) and Anna) were born in Pennsylania

GWG's father, Arthur A., may have lived with parents and 3 siblings in Mercer County (French Creek TWP) in 1930 when he was 4 1/2 years old.

An Arthur A. Greer, who had previously lived in PA passed away September 9, 2000. He had lived in Dunedin, Pinellas, FL.

It is to be hoped that he had a more peaceful death than the death Judge GWG has planned for Terri.

Does the W. in George W. Greer stand for Wilbur?

Does Greer have unresolved issues surrounding the death of his father on 9/9/2000?

3,681 posted on 09/13/2003 6:51:22 PM PDT by syriacus ( Prankin' Al Franken says---My letter to Ashcroft was not a lie...it was a prank. 9/7/03)
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To: pc93
I don't know who else but his brother

I think M. Schiavo's sister-in-law also testified.

3,682 posted on 09/13/2003 6:53:00 PM PDT by syriacus ( Prankin' Al Franken says---My letter to Ashcroft was not a lie...it was a prank. 9/7/03)
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To: syriacus
An Arthur A. Greer, who had previously lived in PA passed away September 9, 2000. He had lived in Dunedin, Pinellas, FL

The Dunedin Arthur A. Greer was born in 1925, just as the French Creek, PA Arthur A. Greer was.

3,683 posted on 09/13/2003 6:55:48 PM PDT by syriacus ( Prankin' Al Franken says---My letter to Ashcroft was not a lie...it was a prank. 9/7/03)
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To: Deo volente
I agree with you completely: it's just that I don't think Greer will accept your interpretation. This man seems obsessed with killing Terri.

Rememember that the 1993 and 2001 tax bills were made retroactive to Jan. 1 of each of those years.
3,684 posted on 09/13/2003 6:56:57 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: blueriver
It is impossible for me to understand how the public and the St. Petersburg Times could present the Michael Schiavo "side" in a way that the public would support.

If Michael Schiavo is a sympathetic person in Pinellas Co., I fear for the future of the nation even more.
3,685 posted on 09/13/2003 7:01:13 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: blueriver
Greer has allowed Terri's fund to be squandered by M. Schiavo, no wonder he wants her dead.

I don't think many people would want their business to be handled by someone Greer "oversees." (OOPs...bad choice of words... GWG can't "see" very well.)

3,686 posted on 09/13/2003 7:01:22 PM PDT by syriacus ( Prankin' Al Franken says---My letter to Ashcroft was not a lie...it was a prank. 9/7/03)
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To: syriacus
"Authorized security personnel costs shall be borne by Terri's Medical Fund."


There is surely something up with money here. $700,000-$1.3 million is NOT A LOT OF MONEY!

How has this 'Medical Fund' paid for legal fees for 10 years, security guards since 2000 for whomever Michael Schiavo feels needs them and incidental expenses we're not privy to? Felos is likely telling the truth when he says the fund money is long gone (or something to that effect).

IMO, they're expecting a lot of money from somewhere, if they achieve their goal of killing Terri.

3,687 posted on 09/13/2003 9:52:31 PM PDT by windchime
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To: MarMema; All
Cruising and looking for answers.  MarMema, Julie Grimstad might be of interest to you, if you haven't already found material on her in your research.  I can't find a website for  her Center for the Rights of the Terminally Ill.

DisabilityInfo.Gov

Health Rights

HOW TO FILE A DISCRIMINATION COMPLAINT WITH
THE OFFICE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS

 PROVIDING NUTRITION AND HYDRATION TO PATIENTS  A Catholic Perspective   by Julie Grimstad

Julie A. Grimstad has been Director of the Center for the Rights of the Terminally Ill for the past 15 years. Her early experiences as a nurse in an extended care unit of a hospital, as well as having had a brother with a severe mental disability, contributed to her concern for the human rights of the medically dependent, vulnerable people who often feel (and are) rejected by a society that increasingly values only its healthy and productive members. Julie is a Wisconsin homemaker, wife, mother of five and grandmother of 2 children.

Mrs. Grimstad is also the author of "Euthanasia: Imposed Death" (copyright 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000), a newspaper supplement covering such topics as so-called "Persistent Vegetative State", witholding food and water from disabled people, Who's Who in the Right-to-Die Arena, etc.

This column, to appear in a forthcoming issue of the American Life League's magazine, Celebrate Life, is her first contribution to WFF's "About Medicine and Morality". -- Editor

  Exerpt:

"Nutrition and hydration (whether orally administered or medically assisted) are sometimes withdrawn not because a patient is dying, but precisely because a patient is not dying (or not dying quickly enough) and someone believes it would be better if he or she did, generally because the patient is perceived as having an unacceptably low 'quality of life' or as imposing burdens on others."

Julie Grimstad + Center for the Rights of the Terminally Ill

 

3,688 posted on 09/13/2003 10:16:59 PM PDT by windchime
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To: windchime
IMO, they're expecting a lot of money from somewhere

I wonder if it is possible to have insured Terri some years back, even though she was brain injured.

Maybe a policy was taken out around the time that Jodi (?) Centonze, Jerger and Schiavo ran their insurnace [sic] company from of Centonze's address.

Is Schiavo in a special hurry because the coverage/policy ends soon? Do policies expire?

As you probably guess, I don't know anything about insurance.

3,689 posted on 09/13/2003 10:26:21 PM PDT by syriacus ( Prankin' Al Franken says---My letter to Ashcroft was not a lie...it was a prank. 9/7/03)
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To: windchime
Center for the Rights of the Terminally Ill, Inc., P.O. Box 54246, Hurst, TX 76054, (817) 656-5143.
3,690 posted on 09/13/2003 10:35:38 PM PDT by syriacus ( Prankin' Al Franken says---My letter to Ashcroft was not a lie...it was a prank. 9/7/03)
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To: windchime; Deo volente; All
Thanks for these links, am currently reading and posting at work. I will read them more tonight or tomorrow after church.

Tomorrow at church we're going to light an entire candle stand up in honor of Terri. I think we bought something like 60 or 70 beeswax candles at the Greek festival. It's going to take five of us to get them all lit and up at church in the morning.

And, though this was not the plan, it just occurred to me that people will be curious and probably ask afterward at our agape what/why we had lit so many. A great opening.

Everyone have a great Sunday morning. May God bless the Schindlers and remove from them all suffering and pain, filling them with His peace and knowledge of His love.

3,691 posted on 09/13/2003 11:20:07 PM PDT by MarMema (KILLING ISN'T MEDICINE)
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To: syriacus
"As you probably guess, I don't know anything about insurance."


Neither do I. The Jerger Schiavo Insurance firm looked like a sham to cover for something else to me. Guess, if they really had anything to do with insurance, they could have written a policy based upon whatever information they wanted to provide on Terri. I think that gives us another category of crime...insurance fraud.

What would Schiavo know about insurance? He was a restaurant manager, then nurse....was it determined Jerger truly was an insurance person?

If the policy was for very much, there would be astronomical premiums to pay. Terri's 39 now. Maybe when she's 40 there would be some substantial change in the policy or premium.
3,692 posted on 09/14/2003 12:01:13 AM PDT by windchime
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To: syriacus
Thanks! I just saw Hurst, Tx, mentioned, but no address.
3,693 posted on 09/14/2003 12:03:58 AM PDT by windchime
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To: MarMema
"we're going to light an entire candle stand up in honor of Terri. I think we bought something like 60 or 70 beeswax candles.....it just occurred to me that people will be curious and probably ask afterward at our agape what/why we had lit so many. A great opening."

Wonderful! More prayers for Terri. You have a great Sunday morning, too!
3,694 posted on 09/14/2003 12:12:17 AM PDT by windchime
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To: Theodore R.
"If Michael Schiavo is a sympathetic person in Pinellas Co., I fear for the future of the nation even more."



I get a creepy feeling when I see his glaring mug.

What's the matter with everybody down there? Is there something in the air they're breathing?
3,695 posted on 09/14/2003 12:33:44 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, Terri will live.)
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To: windchime
You're welcome.
3,696 posted on 09/14/2003 5:58:38 AM PDT by syriacus ( Prankin' Al Franken says---My letter to Ashcroft was not a lie...it was a prank. 9/7/03)
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To: windchime
Jerger truly was an insurance person?

Yes. Jerger comes from an important family in the Florida area who scored big in the insurance business a few generations back. [insuring mobile homes is lucrative*]

More recently they have been taken over by PHILADELPHIA CONSOLIDATED HOLDING CORP .

There are Jerger connections with hospice, with nursing programs, with colleges, with programs to determine mobile home ownership, with Pennsylvania, with running as a sport

Schiavo's partner Jerger is a very powerful person.

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Richard M. Jerger, who was a director (with Schiavo) of Jerger & Centonze Insurance Inc., which ran out of the home of Schiavo's sweetie, is a holder in the PHILADELPHIA CONSOLIDATED HOLDING CORP which bought out Jerger and Sons.

Jerger and Sons insured mobile homes. According to an article I posted above, politicians partied while inferior homes were being built.

The insurers did not care about the safety of the mobile homes--they were cheap to replace after disasters.

The politicians liked the support they got from those in the mobile home industry.

PHILADELPHIA CONSOLIDATED HOLDING CORP stopped providing insurance to nursing homes at about the time they bought Jerger, and took over the mobile home insurance business.

Did Greer do anything funny with zoning for mobile homes?

other posts on Jerger at 642 689 694 712 742 749 751 752 755 757 760 761 762 764 767 805 808 811 812 815 860 946 1326 1329

[insuring mobile homes is lucrative*] because it costs so little to replace a mobile home - 1/10 th the cost of replacing a standard home.

3,697 posted on 09/14/2003 6:32:16 AM PDT by syriacus ( Prankin' Al Franken says---My letter to Ashcroft was not a lie...it was a prank. 9/7/03)
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To: windchime; Deo volente; MarMema; blueriver; pc93; Theodore R.; kimmie7
Speaking of insurance, windchime, what would happen, theoretically speaking, if it were determined that Schiavo's suit ("on behalf of Terri") was brought under false pretenses?

I think Schiavo only bothered to sue Terri's doctors after there were questions raised about her having broken bones.

I could be wrong about the timeline....and Schiavo could have been thinking about a lawsuit earlier, of course. I have no idea.

But...

say, for the heck of argument, the lawsuit was mainly brought to divert attention from Terri's broken bones...

Who would get in trouble for being involved in that lawsuit?

Theoretically speaking, Would M. Schiavo have to return the lawsuit "winnings" if it turns out he was the one who hurt Terri and her collapse had nothing to do with a potassium imbalance?

Which legal minds were involved in bringing suit against the doctors?

Would they get in trouble for suing innocent parties, if they knew Mike had caused Terri's collapse?

What would be the repercussions to all the parties involved, if there were revelations that the doctors didn't hurt Terri and the parties involved in the lawsuit knew that?

Which judge handled the lawsuit?

3,698 posted on 09/14/2003 6:51:41 AM PDT by syriacus ( Prankin' Al Franken says---My letter to Ashcroft was not a lie...it was a prank. 9/7/03)
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To: syriacus
Of course! Thank you, syriacus, for responding so precisely and politely.

At 3:00 a.m. I jumped in like one who has never seen the thread before asking to be caught up! Fortunately, I went to sleep right after posting that question, consequently, avoiding further silly inquiries.
3,699 posted on 09/14/2003 7:12:58 AM PDT by windchime
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To: syriacus
It was pointed out by Bob Schindler, Jr., that the insurance company that paid Schiavo no longer exists. Therefore, no suit can be brought by a company to recover his fraudulent insurance award.
3,700 posted on 09/14/2003 7:24:10 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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