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To: Nachum
One is not merely a Jew by merit of their birth, but also by a minimal standard of behavior. This standard even applies among secular Jews. When a Jew becomes a Christian, it is a very personal attack on Jewish identity. One cannot be both, as much as some Christians try to sell the idea.

:-/

Tell me how that does not sound like something the "blacker-than-thou" folks would say about black identity! The same principle applies.

Check this out:

One is not merely a Jew black by merit of their birth, but also by a minimal standard of behavior. This standard even applies among secular Jews blacks. When a Jew black becomes a Christian conservative, it is a very personal attack on Jewish African-American identity. One cannot be both, as much as some Christians conservatives try to sell the idea.

Do you see just how stupid that sounds?


245 posted on 08/28/2003 11:43:03 AM PDT by rdb3 (They've read all the books but they can't find the answers...)
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To: rdb3
Do you see just how stupid that sounds?

Yes, it does sound stupid. Only because you are comparing a Jew, which is both a religion and nation to skin color only. In addition, you compare Jews and ultimately Israel (and its law of return) to separtist liberal Blacks in America.

Your example itself makes several assumptions, by themselves an attack on Judaism and by extension the law of return in Israel. If one could only be Jewish by birth, it would be comparable to race, but since one can make a choice to be Jewish there is no comparison.

Here is your example using another example:

One is not merely Christian by merit of their birth, but by a minimal standard of behavior. This standard even applies to more secular Christians. When a Christian becomes a Islamist it is an attack on American-Christian identity. One cannot be both, as much as Muslims try to sell the idea.

254 posted on 08/28/2003 12:22:01 PM PDT by Nachum
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