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To: chuckles
They choose to believe God.

So do I. I talk to God all the time, as is my right. I need no intercessor, I need worship no man, nor symbolically drink his blood nor symbolically eat his flesh.

I used to, but it never worked. Only after I approached God directly were my prayers answered. I believe God, but I do not believe Jesus, or more precisely, all the things attributed to him (I personally think he was actually a very great Essene scholar and teacher, but that's my point of view).

Does that mean I will burn in hell forever? You are free to think so, and free to be wrong. I asked God, He answered. No hell for me, sorry. All men are free to create and reside in the hell of their choice, however, so there is hope for the "fire and brimstone" crowd.

God made a covenant with my people. Despite the incredible tendency of my people to sin and turn away from God again and again, he has always welcomed us back, and has never broken a promise. God loves me, loves my people, and loves all people. This is a fact.

You are free to approach God in any way you like. I am not one to tell you how to do that. But to command ME how to approach God is wrong, and if you were to condemn me because I choose to stand before God as a Jew, it would be evil.

Believe what you want; free will is God's greatest gift to man, and one He will never take from us. So don't try to do what even God would not.

Choose to believe God, and do what is right.

172 posted on 08/28/2003 12:30:35 AM PDT by Imal (The World According to Imal: http://imal.blogspot.com)
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To: Imal
I personally think he was actually a very great Essene scholar and teacher, but that's my point of view

Have you read CC Jungs essay, "Answer to Job". To use today's lingo, "it rocks!"

173 posted on 08/28/2003 12:35:10 AM PDT by USMMA_83
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To: Imal
"....But to command ME how to approach God is wrong, and if you were to condemn me because I choose to stand before God as a Jew, it would be evil.".....

You missed the point of what I said ENTIRELY! I didn't say any of this, GOD DID! You condemn yourself, not me. I have nothing to do with it. If Hell is not for non-believers, who is it for? I'm not telling anyone what to do, I'm just doing what GOD says to do. If you CHOOSE to rebel against GOD, that's not my concern. I still want the Holy Spirit to call you, but He is responsible to save who He will. It's not my responsibility. Jesus explained the Scriptures to the Synagouge's and they made their choices. All the Scriptures told of the coming of Jesus. He is seen in all the verses. Don't be mad at me and my brothers, God is who you are angry at. As Christians we have 1 job; spread the Gospel. We are ordered to do that. You still have your will. We won't ever take that from you, nor could I. When you come to Jesus, you give up your will for His. As long as you rebel and keep your will, you cannot be doing God's will. That's what it's been about since Adam and Eve. It's not that complicated.

I just never understand why people get so angry when God is talked about. They act like He is some namby pamby, "can't we all just get along", God. He destroyed Sodom for their sin, He destroyed everyone on Earth, save 8 people, for their sin, He has put the Jews in slavery many times to punish His people, Why do people believe they can mock His Son's sacrifice and get away with it? Salvation is a free gift. I don't give it, He does. I don't judge you, He will. Being a "good person" won't get you there. That is the problem with all religions that have no Savior. You will be judged on your works and nobody is without sin. Your religion teaches you to shed blood for forgiveness of sin. Whoose blood have you shed lately? Do you take goats down to the Synagouge, or is that old fashion? Where does it say you should stop the Law of God? Read Josepheus and see that miracles stoped happening at the Temple when Jesus died. People were waiting and waiting for the crimson thread to turn white, it didn't. Did the Glory of God decend on the Temple to show their sin was forgiven one more time? No, it stopped. There was no need for sacrifice after the Supreme Sacrifice, once for all. There was a period of about 30-35 years with no miracles commented about in his writings.

You say God loves "your" people. Are there NO Jews in Hell? There are Jews that are atheists. Are they saved also by heritage? You are correct that God loves all people, That why His Son died for their sins. You must believe that to accept the free gift. If you don't, you are self rightious and will be judged accordingly. You must reach the standard Jesus set to get in heaven. Good luck to you and Shalom.

280 posted on 08/28/2003 9:35:05 PM PDT by chuckles
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