Posted on 08/25/2003 2:05:47 PM PDT by snopercod
They really think we're as idiotic as they are.
Me: (slowly standing and applauding)
Wow... what a brave position for you to take there.
And this is all Bush's fault ??
I guess that government interference in foreign trade being bad only applies to the US government. Every foreign government gets a pass becuase they subsidize exports to drive American industry out of teh market place so they can then exercise monoply or political power from the end result.
Now I challenged you before to rpovide some quantitative evidence that a tariff does not provide a net benefit to teh USA I have previuously provided you a link to a multiple regression analysis showing a tariff did provide a benefit net to the USA. There are others. If your statement is true about a tariff lowering teh standard of living then someone should be able to back it up with evidence.
Nice to know you support Al Sharpton over George Bush. You are a solid conservative.
People like me?? Almost everything he has done has been against what I believe. He's hardly pandering to me!
You were responding to my point about export taxes being illegal under the US Constitution.
I do not support tariffs on exports.
You managed to sound like you did.
Just because your unable to read and comprehend what is said, don't attempt to lie about what I wrote.
Why Poohbay, it's not like you to just give out partial information. Tariffs would be charged on imports. As for teriffs charged on exports, other nations charge tariffs on our exports all the time, some as much as 40 percent.
Knowing that you would object to tariffs on imports, I explained to you that other nations charge those on our exports to their nations all the time.
Now, if you're still not able to understand this simple concept, why don't you just suffer the humiliation of not understanding and not make a total --- out of yourself again.
So were you out cheerleading the big $15 billion throwaway on AIDS in Africa? That kind of money could actually go a long way to bailing out California --- and remember --- there is no cure for AIDS, that money was thrown away.
Ha! I think you just came up with the new slogan for Free Republic!
What do you call huge steel tariffs to prop up manufacturing jobs and massive government payments to farmers?
Are you going to rob me? Better bring the kevlar. Want a job? I can find something for you to do around my house if you can't think of anything someone else might want done. By the way, I call it liberty, capitalism is just a description of how it accumulates wealth.
They are going to dismantle the system because it is putting them into the poor house.
Being put there? That's an interesting way of looking at it. What do you think you are owed, and by whom? You have to earn a living, sir.
The American people are becoming poorer by shipping all of their decent jobs overseas and there will be a political upheaval whether smug name-callers like you want to admit it or not.
You can't build a wall high enough to trap capital, all you can do is lure it. High taxes and regulaton are chasing out capital, robbing me won't change that for you. After you eat what you steal from me, what will you do? Find another victim?
You see the world as a brutal game of "Monopoly" where people are run over by the free market steam roller.
No, I see it a place where opportunity must be pursued and free rides aren't guaranteed.
A nation of angry folks with plenty of time and poverty on their hands will do something about it. Count on it.
Still not scared of you. Sounds like you don't know how to create work for yourself, you need someone to provide you a job. You need us, we don't need you. Or do you expect to be the American Mugabe's henchmen? Is that what you're hinting at?
You see your fellow countrymen as pawns in your international chess game and don't have any respect or regard for their plight.
No, I see them as human beings, that have to earn their keep. I don't want you putting a gun to my head and telling me I can't trade with someone else just because they offer a better deal than you.
You would not want me to be Emperor.
Of course I don't, your fixed pie world view tries to take, not create, and expects to be provided for, not provide for themselves. I realize the world only gets better by people trading effort for effort, not compulsion.
you have no allegiance to any nation, as you have declared yourself the defender of borderless globalism.
I don't think imaginary lines should give you the right to pick my pocket.
I am no genius but a corporation employing mostly foreigners is foreign and it won't take a genius or a bureaucracy to recognize that.
So? You're the one who wants to create a bureaucracy to make that determination, as if a legion of new leeches will suddenly make us richer. Oh, it might help you keep doing what you're doing, for a little while, if you can stop me from trading freely with someone else. But that happens by making millions pay more for their goods and have lower standards of living, and you feel no shame, you feel owed.
Governments have long determined the requirements for trade and commerce with their nations.
You didn't have to pull off the mask, I had you pegged, commie.
America seems, at the moment, the only country to be the world's sucker and not demanding fair, reciprocal access to markets.
The American government does demand it, difference is they don't punish American citizens just because Japanese, etc. citizens are being punished by their government's with higher costs imposed the government.
Thanks. Same for yours and Howard Dean's posterior (or whoever the DNC nominee ends up being).
Cyclical downturns usually means lay off as assembly lines or some factories, but what we're witnessing now is the shut down of tool and die businesses, we're closing down the means of production. IT obviously didn't pan out as a replacement for manufacturing, we're closing that down too. And the entire garment industry.
You can't really believe that no jobs for Americans is a good policy.
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