Bustamante Leads Schwarznegger in Recall Race [McClintock gettng 21% of GOP Votes]

LA Times (Registration Required) ^ | August 24, 2003 | staff writer

[prarie earth]

Much of (Arnolds) strategy is based on cross over appeal to non-Republican voters given his comparitvely moderate views on issues such as gun control, abortion and gay rights.

But less than two weeks into his first run for elected office, Schwarznegger has already become a politically polarizing figure.

Roughly seven in ten Democratic voters have an unfavorable impression of the action-movie star, while the same number of likely Republican voters expressed a favorable view.

The actor won the support of 39% of likely Republican voters, 20% of Independents, and 7% of Democrats polled.

McClintock recieved 21% of the Republican vote, Simon recieved 12% and Uberroth 10%.

[Princeliberty]

The ego trip is Arnold's. Arnold has no principles
he is running just to feed his ego.

McClintock is running to turn the state around.

Arnold can't win he has negatives that are approaching
50% already. And Arnold only go down in the polls.

[Texas_Dawg]

That's correct. Hispanics here in TX are not a Democrat "lock." They do trend 50/50 between the Pubs and the RATS.

If they even vote at all. Tony Sanchez only managed slightly over 60% of Hispanics that voted in the gubernatorial race last year, but the Hispanic turnout was abysmal. President Bush might win over 50% of Hispanics in Texas next year. Too bad conservatives in California don't really care about winning (better to stick to principle and lose, right?) or George W. Bush might do something similar with the Hispanic vote there as well next year, possibly even winning their state.

[RS]

"The DNC could not have said it better."

Thanks, If McClintock were to tell the truth, he could not have said it better either.

[Princeliberty]

They can easily go after the simple fact he is
not qualified and can even begin to address
the problems of the state.

[Princeliberty]

Because they are just playing politics.

[RS]

"They can easily go after the simple fact he is
not qualified and can even begin to address
the problems of the state."

... and chase all the Dem crossovers back to Bustamantes waiting arms....

Good Plan !

[RS]

Sorry for my previous post... I thought you were explaining a possible McClintock strategy, not a Dem strategy.

... both they would both have the same effect - Gov. Bustamonte...

[cyncooper]

They want to win......what's wrong with that.........??

Huh?

Did I say there was anything wrong with their support?

NO.

What I am saying is they are conservative congressman who did not put their fingers in the air, but came out for Schwarzenegger right off the bat.

This demonstrates that those here who shriek that "Arnold is a RINO" and say any Republican who supports him is just a RINO, are full of you-know-what.

[cyncooper]

I see. Everybody is playing politics or being self-serving but St. Tom.

Riiiiiiiiight.

[Spiff]

But Rush really has changed his views a lot..saying 'how Arnold got his conservative groove back'

Rush spanks all of you who are timid about pushing a conservative right now when the time is ripe to elect a REAL conservative.

California Needs Conservatism

California is a liberal proving-ground run amok. Its crushing debt - resulting from years of pandering to unions, bureaucrats, illegal immigrants, environmentalists and trial lawyers - has led to huge tax increases, major cuts in basic services, a reduction in the state's credit rating, brown-outs, water shortages and a large exodus of citizens from the state.

None of this decay is surprising. The left's promises of Nirvana never measure up. But what does surprise me are the reactions of some conservatives who see California's problems as so severe that they can't be solved by the application of conservative principles. Their thinking has led them to support Arnold Schwarzenegger, who, to my knowledge, has yet to embrace any conservative positions, though he has embraced Warrent Buffett. Hasta la vista, whatever.

There's no better time to advance conservative principles than when they're most needed. And California needs a large dose of conservatism. Recent history should be our guide.
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Conservatives need to learn from Ronald Reagan. They need to stop being timid, pessimistic, and insecure. California needs solutions. There is no better time and place to establish and illustrate the primacy of conservatism. True, not all of California's problems mirror those of the late '70s and '80s, but many do, particularly those that forced this recall. Now, if one man with a vision completely changed the course of a nation, why can't it happen in a single state?
-Rush Limbaugh, Wall Street Journal, 20 August 2003

Obviously, Rush is saying that we need a true conservative and one with vision. And he makes it clear that it isn't Arnold who, he says, "has yet to embrace any conservative positions."

Rush doesn't rehabilitate Arnold much at all in the whole 'Arnold Got His (Conservative) Groove Back' thing. Far from it. Rush's support of Arnold's alleged conservative credentials it as tepid as Coulter's. So Arnold brought in Schultz? And?! That certainly doesn't immediately make him a conservative. Other people he's brought into his campaign detract from the conservative illusion. For example, he's brought in A. Jerrold Perenchio, the leftist CEO of the Univision and a long-time Davis supporter.

And I'm now going to add another bullet to the list of Arnold's non-conservative views:

• Soft on Illegal Immigration

  Last year, while campaigning for his Prop. 49 after-school programs initiative, Schwarzenegger...declared in answer to a question from the audience: "I would never stand in the way of any child going to school, whether he or she is here legally or illegally, it does not matter." - Sacramento Bee, 24 August

  

[deport]

Just curious..... Do you reside in CA? You don't display your flag and seem to have some knowledge of the state?

Thanks.

[FastCoyote]

"bustamonte = swartznegger = davis. Might as well keep davis. "

I'm thinking bustamonte is the best choice. If Arnold isn't conservative and McClintock unelectable, then sadly but surely what California needs is an orgy of liberal policies that brings the fever to a boil. Neither Arnold nor McClintock could reform the state in two years given a democratic legislature. So, I think you need to crash the whole system.

[Spiff]

You know you're pushing the right conservative principle when Chancellor Pulpatine attacks you.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Who do you support for Governor of California now that Bill Simon has dropped out?

McClintock 331 votes - 50%
Schwarzenegger 292 votes - 44%
Other 11 votes - 1%
Undecided 23 votes - 3%

If this were a Republican primary and only Freepers voted, I'd have to suggest, "Asta La Vista, Arnold".

[EllaMinnow]

What about Dana Rohrabacher and David Dreier supporting Schwarzenegger wholeheartedly----from day one?

Don't they count? Why is their support continuously ignored?

I think I get it, cyn. Rohrbacher and Dreier have actually been elected to office in California - therefore they aren't pure enough to be considered anything but RINOS.

[Buck W.]

I'm not a resident of CA, so I take a more "nationally strategic" view. In that view, the best outcome for the state and the nation is the election of Arnold as Governor. Here's why:

Any R is better than any D, and Arnold has the best chance among all of the R's. With Arnold in the governor's seat, the D's will be forced to spend money in California in the 2004 presidential race. They will get no free photo ops with a compliant D governor. That's less money that they will have to spend nationally, which could lead to greater R gains across the country.

Now, I like EVERYTHING that I have recently heard and read about Tom McClintock. In keeping with my nationally strategic perspective, I'd like Tom to save himself for the next Senatorial election in CA. He's better suited to that role, and as a US Senator, he can share his principled conservatism with the rest of the country.

[deport]

If this were a Republican primary and only Freepers voted, I'd have to suggest, "Asta La Vista, Arnold".

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Didn't the Massa Keyes win most Freeper polls?

[prarie earth]

If Tom is running at around 20% or above I say let him in the race for the long haul, anything else is wasting time..

[rodeo-mamma]

Don't tell Veronia what to do. I'll tell you what I am going to do, I am going to be saying over and over that I hope the blame gets placed squarely on McClintock's shoulders when his fat ego ends up causing the state of California to slide into the Pacific Ocean!