FOX NEWS: ALABAMA TEN COMMANDMENTS JUDGE SUSPENDED...

Drudge Report ^ | 08/22/03 | Matt Drudge

[Pokey78]

Orlando Salinas broke in a few minutes ago and announced this on Fox News.

[jwalsh07]

What do we do when a court district's population becomes majority Muslim, and they VOTE to outlaw public practice of Christianity and public display of any Christian symbols on private property...and so on, and so on?

Lock and load since every state in the union has Constitutional restraints on establishing state religions.

You know your question was hyperbole right?

What citizen of Alabama was deprived of worshipping as they see fit?

What citizen of Alabama was coerced to worship the Ten Commandments?

In other words what individual had their rights abridged?

An osmotic collective being offended is not covered by the Constitution.

The reason we do not have DEMOCRACY in this country, but rather a Constitutional Republic, is to protect the minority view from majority rule.

No argument there however the minority doesn't rule in any democratic form of government and since the USA is a pluralist and mobile nation, those who can not countenance the Ten Commandments in the court room can find their way to Masachusetts.

The right not to be offended is not an inalienable one. At least it didn't use to be.

[Liberty Wins]

Could it get much worse than this?

Jane Doe v. Santa Fe, a federal judge ruled that graduation prayers must not include any mention of “Jesus” or other “specific deities” and that any student offering such a prayer would face immediate arrest and up to six months in jail. The judge threatened “violators” by saying they would wish they “had died as a child” once his court finished with them.

[eeriegeno]

but the law is THE LAW and nobody is ABOVE it

Unless, of course, your name might happen to be Clinton, Reno, Richardson, Kennedy, Condit, Frank, et al.... Then you could argue that this is a nuisance complaint and you must, you just must, put it behind you and get on with doing the people's business. Unbelievable.

Orwell was right but he was a few decades off in his prediction................

[gsrinok]

Frankly, I'm not surprised at all. To answer your question, yes, it can get much worse, and it will unless we stop it now.

[floriduh voter]

Well, the prisons keep Ramadan because they save money on food during the fasting period. And conversions to islam take place in prison every day. Whatta country!

[sinkspur]

SInkspur stated that he thinks the Ten Commandments displayed in courtrooms are constitutional. Paraphrased so correct my if I got anything wrong there.

Then you say that thew Chief Justice erred by refusing other displays.

The remedy for that situation is to remove the Chief Justice, not the Ten Commandments

Actually, the remedy is to remove the 10 Commandments, then remove the Chief Justice, then his replacement can put the rock back, surrounded by other expressions of legal history that might also have a religious connotation.

I've got no problem with the 10 Commandments displayed as part of a historical mosaic.

Moore is using them as a religious display, and has said as much.

[ClearBlueSky]

They can call me- or ring my doorbell. They are free to do that, and I am free to REACT to them as I will. If I want info on any religion I am quite capable of researching it myself. You assume I haven't been aggravated by early morning cultists selling the Watchtower, Mormons, Hare Krishna's and other marginal 'religions'. I have. I don't stop them from proselytizing in 'public', as much as they offend me , why do so many bring lawsuits to prevent CHRISTIAN symbols from being in public? Like it or not, this nation was founded on Christian values and the majority in this country still subscribe to them.
Post the Ten Commandments Everywhere!

[Kevin Curry]

ACLU: "These heayah Christians be gettin' mighty uppity, yo' 'onoh . . ."

[jwalsh07]

So your unfettered opinion is that anything having religious connotation is to be banned from the public square.

You've gone around the bend.

[sinkspur]

Is it possible your judgement in this case has been severely clouded by your obsessive hatred of southern evangelists?

I don't hate southern evangelists, unless Robert Tilton is your idea of a southern evangelist.

[ClearBlueSky]

EXACTLY right. Look at the big picture. The Christian religions are self-destructing from within and are under assault from without.
Islam is militantly, aggressively, expanding.

[aristeides]

This issue is proving an excellent test that allows us to distinguish between FReepers who support religion, and FReepers who support the federal courts' effort to secularize our society.

[concerned about politics]

Thank you. I can see a movement in Europe and by the UN to ban or restrict the viewing of Mel Gibson's new movie as part of the PC crusade against Christians. The way things are going, the Romans might seem like an ally, compared to the way they are heading now.

The EU also wants all referance to God eliminated from their union. This is where the anti-christ ( a politically correct politician "government God")arises from. It's the revived Roman Empire.

[sinkspur]

And sinkspur will squat on his toadstool and croak out denials thrice that he ever knew what as at stake.

Kevin, you've been here four years, and you still don't have the common decency to ping me to a post in which you attempt to defame me, so I can defend myself.

I learned my Christianity from my momma, and she taught me to never talk behind someone's back.

[MarthaNOStewart]

MARCH ON MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA BY THE THOUSANDS IN SUPPORT OF JUSTICE MOORE....THERE IS NO OTHER WAY!

[sinkspur]

So your unfettered opinion is that anything having religious connotation is to be banned from the public square.

If its purpose is to promote a particular religion, yes.

[wardaddy]

why does someone always have to bring up snake handlers...how many are there??...a few hundred? thousand?


Has Judge Moore been accused of snake handling?

Do you know anything about the man himself and his own personal history?

He is no "character-lite" kind of guy who lives to equivocate.

OK ...kids...no longer is the mantra that all culture is relative sufficient.

Now, it's all religion is relative as well as the absence of.

[Beck_isright]

Canada also wants the same. The anti-Christ could be closer than you think. Especially if a NAU (North American Union) is declared some day soon.

[floriduh voter]

This matter sets a precedent which is what I object to. It is not my freedom to practice religion that is at stake in this one issue. I am looking five years down the road. Is every monument going to be chiseled to bits to appease the aclu? If islam is a religion of peace, they aren't a religion of tolerance and they've joined up with atheists down this path. See you in five years when the money has to be re-minted and re-printed to remove god. Won't that be a expensive endeavor for one and all just to appease the aclu's self absorbed clients?

[strela]

You assume I haven't been aggravated by early morning cultists selling the Watchtower, Mormons, Hare Krishna's and other marginal 'religions'.

I made no such assumption. On the contrary, I was using my example to illustrate the dangers of state support of one religion over another. That way lies the endless sectarian violence in Northern Ireland and most of the Muslim world. No thanks.