To: Rifleman
I think part of the problem is the attitude that leos seem to have nowadays.
Watch "cops" for an example. The condescending, bullyboy attitude does nothing to help diffuse a situation.
It's an ego thing the cop says "drop the rake" the guy says no.. kiss my a$$" .. then rather than suffer the "humiliation " of being disobeyed and looking for a way to calm the situation( like perhaps backing down a bit)the leo decides the best thing to do is shoot to kill.
Just wait until all those "peace keepers" from iraq come home and get jobs with the local sheriffs dept.
I m sure they'll know how to keep the civilian population under control.
15 posted on
08/22/2003 4:25:35 AM PDT by
THEUPMAN
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To: THEUPMAN
It's an ego thing the cop says "drop the rake" the guy says no.. kiss my a$$" .. then rather than suffer the "humiliation " of being disobeyed and looking for a way to calm the situationThere is just not enough information here to draw a judgement. We aren't told the size of the rake, whether the officer was hit with it, how long and how many the tines were, etc. A rake could make a pretty effective stick weapon, though it seems unlikely. I suspect the guy was drunk, or maybe it was suicide by cop. Once men get into the whole "domestic violence" system, their options get dramaticly reduced, they tend to be assumed guilty, and many become suicidal after loosing everything.
To: THEUPMAN
It's an ego thing the cop says "drop the rake" the guy says no.. kiss my a$$" .. then rather than suffer the "humiliation " of being disobeyed and looking for a way to calm the situation( like perhaps backing down a bit)the leo decides the best thing to do is shoot to kill. In no way was this a desired outcome and we really know very little about the situation, but lets be fair.
What the police knew:
There is a protection from abuse order against this man.
He is violating this order.
He is threatening them with deadly force, the tree branches.
He quickly upgrades his weapon to a metal rake.
And the solution here is to back off? What happens when the LEOs back away a little bit and the guy darts into the garage and grabs a firearm, or runs into the group of people and drives the rake tines into the womans or someone elses head, and takes away their sight or kills them? OOOPs?
Its a bad situation, but its one this man created for himself.
120 posted on
08/22/2003 8:51:24 AM PDT by
RJL
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