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To: Aquinasfan; Southflanknorthpawsis; Amelia; Scenic Sounds
If you haven't already noticed, it's a gang of ten or so. They show up on every Keyes thread. As to their motivation, your guess is as good as mine. Most of their attacks are ad hominem and content free, which leads me to suspect a personal vendetta of some kind.

Oh yes, because it couldn't possibly be that anyone would have trouble with Alan Keyes' public remarks and divisive nature. It must be personal. < /sarcasm >

I realize how impossible it is for you guys to believe that Keyes could make a mistake, but the truth is, he had most of "us" (BOO!) in his camp at one time or another. I used to like him quite a lot...but, as with John McCain, my opinion of him evolved.

I don't have a "personal vendetta" against McCain, either.

296 posted on 08/22/2003 8:12:41 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (“I think your life expectancy was about 20 seconds." - Lloyd Keeland, USMC, veteran of Iwo Jima)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; Aquinasfan
but the truth is, he had most of "us" (BOO!) in his camp at one time or another.

Well, I know that this may come as a shock to some of you, but I myself was once a Keyes booster of sorts.

However, I really just don't understand what he's talking about in this current matter concerning the Ten Commandments monument. I had thought that he was saying that he recognized the law to be the law, but that he felt that, in the finest American tradition of civil disobedience, he was prepared as a matter of conscience to interfere with the operation of the law and cheerfully accept whatever penalty might result as a consequence. Last night, however, he seemed to be arguing that each of us have a right determine for ourselves what the law is on any particular matter. I'm not sure what that philosophy is, but it doesn't sound very conservative to me.

It's all very frightening, actually. ;-)

299 posted on 08/22/2003 8:34:05 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Conservatism never really loses; it simply changes.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I really like Keyes for the purpose of letting me hear what the true "purist" conservative rationale is, then, when I hear the other side, I can formulate a valid opinion after having heard the BEST arguments from both points of view.

Example: stem cell research.

I thought, gee, if it can help people, and then Alan Keyes was slated for coming on to the News shows. I said to myself, good, I'd like to hear what he has to say to combat this seemingly good argument from the "cure people" side.

And, because of having heard the various points, I thought W did a good job at finding a middle ground that I could live with, on the subject.

NordP

304 posted on 08/22/2003 9:28:55 AM PDT by NordP (We love you W!)
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