[xzins]

It is impossible to believe the various courts' interpretation of the 1st Amendment because so much of our Founders' lives says that the co-mingling of church and state was just fine so long as no church was established over the others.

Quotations prove it, art proves it, our buildings prove it, our documents prove it.

It is not failure to see that blinds our opponents. It is a willingness to lie because the light within them is all darkness.

[esopman]

Your response is, as the Brits would say, spot on.

These issues are ultimately spiritual, manichean and not recognized by this 'World.' Such talk is crazy to most using the vocabulary of the secular 21st Century intellectual.

But nothing has changed from the time when God was a Rabbi among us in the Levant. They lie? Surprise? As the Rabbi Y'shua said, their father is the father of all lies, the adversary, ha satan.

(If you can't guess, I can't stand liberals...)