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Contemporary Christian music hot this summer (on MainStream Radio)
Stars & Stripes (Pacific Edition) ^ | 17 Aug 03 | Brian Bowers

Posted on 08/17/2003 9:06:04 PM PDT by xzins

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To: Skooz
I agree with people worshipping in any Biblical manner they choose, by all means.

I also love several of our hymns "It is well with my soul" being a prime example.



121 posted on 08/19/2003 11:30:07 AM PDT by PlutoPlatter
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To: Theo
You are correct, my apologies, sorry I read you the wrong way.

I just get tired of people making blanket statements about the new worship music because they object to the instrumentation, the beat, the rhythm without looking at the heart of the musician or the heart of the worshipper.

I agree there are some "bubble gummy" type of music found on some christian channels but my experience in church has been different as evidenced by my lyric examples.
122 posted on 08/19/2003 11:37:54 AM PDT by PlutoPlatter
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To: MalcolmS
When challenged, Luther is reported to have said "Why should the devil have all the good tunes?"

Didn't Larry Norman wrote a song with that title?

I don't mind Christian music, it's very positive, not like those real musicians being so hip with their fancy shoes.

123 posted on 08/19/2003 11:45:11 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill (We're after power and we mean it..)
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To: ActionNewsBill

That Phil Keaggy is not a "real musician" will come as a surprise to the legions of guitarists who idolize him.
124 posted on 08/19/2003 11:58:56 AM PDT by Skooz (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: Skooz
careful or your description of idolize will be used against you....

Don't forget the musical weavings of Randy Stonehill
125 posted on 08/19/2003 12:01:53 PM PDT by PlutoPlatter
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To: KurtChicago
Your post was meant to incite and you know it. Don't go playing like you were just voicing an opinion.
126 posted on 08/19/2003 12:10:44 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat (Help us elect Republicans in Kentucky! Click on my name for links to all the 2003 candidates!)
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To: Skooz
That Phil Keaggy is not a "real musician" will come as a surprise to the legions of guitarists who idolize him.

I agree....Phil is one of the best guitarists of any genre.

My comment was a tounge in cheek quote from george on "Seinfeld".

I saw Phil Keaggy in Ohio about 15 years ago at a small college.

The guy is amazing.

Isn't he missing one of his fingers?

127 posted on 08/19/2003 12:13:07 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill (We're after power and we mean it..)
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To: PlutoPlatter
Third Day and Keith Green -- great lyricists. ;-)

I'm a contemporary Christian musician, *and* I place a HUGE emphasis on lyrical content. I've got a ProTools home studio, several keyboards, yadda yadda, and love "contemporary" sound. I have several music-related magazine subscriptions, and think about how my music might affect those who hear it.

Like many on this discussion, I believe there can be both lyrical sophistication (meaning that it's both doctrinally sound/rich/provocative and culturally relevant) and contemporary instrumentation/orchestration/arrangement/production.

One way to work toward that is to have more "accountability" among Christian musicians. For example, songwriters should submit their compositions to their pastors or some other spiritually-more-wise person for doctrinal review. Worship leaders should submit to their pastors in their song choices, humbly considering the stylistic preferences of the congregation. Humility is a good thing for Christian musicians to practice. There's far too little of it, IMO....

128 posted on 08/19/2003 12:14:52 PM PDT by Theo
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To: ActionNewsBill
Yeah, it's still missing. It's ridiculous that anyone can be that good, even if he had all ten fingers.

I watch him play and just think, "My guitar won't do that."

129 posted on 08/19/2003 12:21:24 PM PDT by Skooz (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: Theo
My memory of what was sung in Mark is that it was the Great Hallel, a portion of the Psalms sung for Passover. It is translated hymn, but every commentary I have seen says it is a section of the Psalter.

Perhaps it did become uninspired stuff later....beats me.

Thanks for your wonderful link. I do like CCM music personally, and it is great to get some good stuff like that. Some of this stuff would be good for college chapel.
130 posted on 08/19/2003 12:30:31 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.collegemedianews.com *some interesting radio news reports here; check it out*)
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To: Theo
Your Biblical ignorance is showing.

Spikenard was used by many people, and was used to bathe dead bodies before burial.

Her act in dousing Christ in Spikenard was a symbol of His being covered with perfume before burial.

You guys need to repent.
131 posted on 08/19/2003 12:33:21 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: hocndoc
I am not being a weaker brother by obeying God's command to follow his worship elements instead of having "liturgical dance."

If you worship God in spirit and in truth, there is no better way than to sing God's divinely inspired hymnbook.

I have to ask why you believe your words are better than the Spirit's?
132 posted on 08/19/2003 12:33:50 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.collegemedianews.com *some interesting radio news reports here; check it out*)
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To: Skooz
I watch him play and just think, "My guitar won't do that."

He's not a bad singer either. Kind of reminds me of Paul McCartney.

"Crimson and Blue" was the last tape I bought by him.

I think he's getting more mellow and introspective in his music lately, but he can still "rock out" with the best of them.

133 posted on 08/19/2003 12:35:08 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill (We're after power and we mean it..)
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To: rwfromkansas
I have to ask you where I used my own words?

134 posted on 08/19/2003 12:35:59 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Skooz
Yeah, it's still missing.

Still? I don't think it's going to grow back, as least while he's here on earth. ; > )

135 posted on 08/19/2003 12:36:33 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill (We're after power and we mean it..)
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To: xzins
I didn't know Robert Randolph was a Christian artist....he plays some mean steel guitar.

Any one heard Walt Wilkins? He's very good.

136 posted on 08/19/2003 12:38:31 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: ActionNewsBill
Still? I don't think it's going to grow back, as least while he's here on earth. ; > )

LOL! I actually thought I was making sense when I wrote that. Must be getting late in the day.

137 posted on 08/19/2003 12:39:34 PM PDT by Skooz (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: hocndoc
If you create a song and sing it in the worship of God, you are using your own words.

I was really meaning to say why you think the work of a human is better than the work of God (an uninspired hymn vs. God's perfectly inspired Psalter), but somehow got it more restricted to only applying to song-writers, not the singers.
139 posted on 08/19/2003 12:57:47 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.collegemedianews.com *some interesting radio news reports here; check it out*)
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To: rwfromkansas
I don't think David was given holy steps to dance.
I pray other prayers than the specific examples given by Christ (although I'm partial to the theme of John 17).
Preachers and teachers - and song writers and singers - don't only quote the Bible, just as I don't answer you only in phrases borrowed from some translation of the Bible or in the original language. We explain and use metaphors that are relevant to our reality, while consistent with God's Spirit.

God gave us the Bible so that we could learn about Him, not so that we would parrot the old words without end (that way lies the 'discussion' about which translation to use). We have his Spirit living in us. We can express our joy and thanks and teach using symbols and words and sounds of today, as long as it is to His glory.
140 posted on 08/19/2003 1:15:31 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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