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To: moondancer
"i dont want to read the links to the 'womens sites'"

MensNewsDaily.com?
LOL!

Although the news site does publish the work of writers who are mostly men, women writers and readers are, of course, also welcome and do show some interest.

The following, as in many of my posts and replies, is information for all and is not directed at any one person.

"A Conscientious Objector to the Gender War"
by Wendy McElroy (writer for the Fox News site)
Excerpted Quote:
"This is the key to understanding the cult of victimhood surrounding PC feminism."

"Pit Bull Trainers and Feminists"
by Amber Pawlik
Quote:
"...then an appropriate incident must be invented to remind your constituents of their victimhood.”

"Feminist Fighting"
by Wendy McElroy
Quote:
"Reasonable people are now automatically skeptical of victimhood. Humane people now reserve their compassion until more evidence is in."

The most often used tactic of radical feminists to censor their opposition (the rest of us) is to present themselves as victims by way of false accusations, often implied with indirect, roundabout language. The victimhood tactic is used against Republican politicians, conservative university instructors, ministers, family/fathers' rights writers and speakers, publishers and others. The tactic is often used in attempts to invoke a sort of false chivalry and divide conservatives against one another in our own forums and other associations.

Most of the rest of us remain faithfully objective and analytical.

661 posted on 08/20/2003 2:38:05 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop
LOL i actually did take a look at your link to the mens site earlier when i clicked on your profile;)

okay...i havent clicked on any of the other links, but help me out here..this victimhood mentalility, that is what my X is using on me, he is the victim here and its working or has worked up until recently. of course he is the perp, but thats another long and ugly story. so does this come from his liberal roots? is this mens group he belongs too associated with the liberals as well? im SO confused LOL they seem to be simular to the liberal women but the mindset is all screwed up the other direction (or maybe its not, i try not to read liberal rantings, maybe you could enlighten me).
in this movement the man is always the victim (but not the same as what the consv. men are talking about)..if he fondles his children, he is misunderstood, if he beats his wife, its her fault (our court ordered evaluator actually said this as well) she said it was my fault for not being firmer in saying "no" thou she reports later that our son did say "no" but his dad just "kept on" BUT it was our sons fault for being "too sensitive" that it was perfectly normal for a father to kick his child in the face, leaving cuts and bruises and to suffocate him to tears and gasping with pillows ect. the whole report contradicts itself from one end to the other.
is this a part of the liberal agenda too? i realize alot of men and women are all into this "if it feels good its okay" mode. im really serious thou in trying to understand. the liberals make my head spin...what kindve group am i dealing with and how do i counter it? any words of wisdom??
662 posted on 08/20/2003 3:04:39 PM PDT by moondancer
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