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Turkey asks U.S. to foil Israeli plans for Temple Mount
haaretz.com ^ | Saturday, August 16, 2003 Av 18, 5763 Israel Time: 02:32 (GMT+3) | Zvi Bar'el

Posted on 08/15/2003 4:38:46 PM PDT by Destro

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To: sheik yerbouty
the Turks were the only ones who could control the psychotic behavior of the Arabs in the area

Maybe because they didn't have to contend with PC.

41 posted on 08/15/2003 8:44:08 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: secretagent
Until the 9th century, no Muslim believed that the "Far away Mosque" in Mohammed's dream was the Temple Mount. It was a political decision by the Umayyad Caliph Abd al-Malik after the defeat of his armies by rival Caliph Abd Allah ibn Zubayr, who was in control of Iraq and Arabia. With a rival Caliph in charge of the Holy cities, Abd al-Malik needed one of his own. Thus the decision was made to declare Jerusalem the "Far Away Temple" of Mohammed's journey.
42 posted on 08/15/2003 9:00:50 PM PDT by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: Destro; a_Turk
I have long been a supporter of the Turks and am a supporter of Pan-Turkic unity as a counter to the Arabs and China.
I had hopes when the Welfare Party came to power that they would try to Modernize Islam. Instead, they seek to Islamicize Turkey. F____ them.
43 posted on 08/15/2003 9:09:48 PM PDT by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: rmlew
To me a Turk is a Turk. Predictable. No surprise.
44 posted on 08/15/2003 9:41:07 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Centurion2000
Very true.
45 posted on 08/15/2003 10:45:41 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Migraine
Yes, under the Ottomans the arabs had to behave..
46 posted on 08/15/2003 10:46:41 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: rmlew
Temple Mount reopens to non-Muslim visitors Despite threats, Israeli police begin escorting Jews, Christians to explosive Jerusalem holy site

Posted: July 1, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

Editor's note: Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin is an online, subscription intelligence news service from the creator of WorldNetDaily.com – a journalist who has been developing sources around the world for the last 25 years.

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Jews are once again visiting the holiest site in Judaism.

Israeli police have begun to allow non-Muslims, under police escort, to enter the Temple Mount grounds in the Old City of Jerusalem, despite threats of violence by Muslim leaders.

About two weeks ago, Interior Security Minister Tzachi Hanegbi announced Jews would soon be allowed on the Temple Mount, "even if no agreement is reached with the Waqf." The Waqf is the Muslim Religious Trust, a group of Islamic clerics appointed to administer the site by the Palestinian Authority's Yasser Arafat.

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon reportedly expressed skepticism about the plan to renew Temple visitations by non-Muslims. In the fall of 2001, Sharon visited the site, an event some cite as the catalyst for the outbreak of the intifada, or uprising. The Temple Mount was subsequently closed to Jews and Christians.

According to Haaretz, police officers didn't wait for an agreement to be worked out with the Waqf. Instead, officers stationed at the Western Wall began, in the last few days, to escort groups of tourists on visits to the grounds of the mosques at the site. The commander of the police station at the Western Wall, Officer Yossi Ben Haim, even approached tourists in the Old City and lobbied them to join the organized visit to the sensitive site, according to the Israeli newspaper.

Although preparations for visits by non-Muslims to the Temple Mount were being made for several days, Waqf Director Adnan Husseini heard for the first time only yesterday that Israeli police were actually bringing in visitors to what has been described as the most explosive piece of real estate in the world. Husseini called the decision a grave violation of trust by Israel.

The Temple Mount is the area that served as the foundation for the First and Second Temples. The Second Temple was destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD. The temples were the centers of Jewish worship in ancient Israel. Tradition places Abraham's near-sacrifice of Isaac on this hill. For Christians, this is where Jesus walked and preached.

Oddly, since recapturing the Temple Mount in the 1967 Six-Day War, the secular government of Israel has granted administrative authority over the holy site to a group of the Waqf. Jews and non-Jews who attempt to visit the site are frequently harassed, even attacked.

The reaction to the Israeli announcement has been predictably strong.

Ahmed Abdel Rahman, a senior political adviser to Arafat, said: "This could be the trigger for the third intifada. How else can we interpret the stupidity of Israel's police minister ...?"

The Palestinian Authority mufti in Jerusalem, Ikrimah Sabri, warned a "bloodbath" would result from such an action.

Even Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak warned of "grave" results if Jews were simply allowed to pray on the Temple Mount.

But Israelis have far more to worry about with regard to the Temple Mount than the simple matter of visitations.

For decades, Muslims have contended, despite the historical and archaeological evidence, that there is no Jewish connection to the Temple Mount. They contend the Temple never existed on this site or anywhere else in what they call "Palestine."

When the Temple Mount was under Arab control, Jews were not even permitted to pray outside the Western Wall. But since the Israelis took over the Temple Mount, they have permitted the Muslims to administer the holiest site in Judaism.

During this period, the Waqf has presided over a little known, but nevertheless extensive, "renovation" program at the Temple Mount. A new mosque has been built under the southeast corner. Additional exits have been cut through the Temple Mount walls. All supervision of this extraordinary, unprecedented effort has been denied. The Muslims have ripped physical evidence of the Temple from the Mount and mixed it with debris and garbage in various dumps around Jerusalem, most notably the Kidron Valley.

Recently, Waqf agents began cleaning one of the giant cisterns under the Temple Mount. These cisterns served as reservoirs for both the First and Second Temples. The plan is to fill these cisterns with water from Mecca's Zamzam Spring – instantly turning the Temple Mount into a genuine holy site for Muslim pilgrims with weight equal to the Great Mosque of Mecca.

This would be the ultimate Islamicization of the Temple Mount.

Meanwhile, recent surveys show the Muslim construction projects have left the southern wall of the Temple Mount near collapse.

Observers have dreaded what might happen if the southern wall actually did fail. Hundreds, if not thousands, of Muslim worshippers might be killed. If such a calamity occurred, it would most assuredly, in the current environment, be blamed not on the construction, but on Israel, they fear.

Temple Mount opens to non-Muslim visitors

As a secular administrator, I'd tell the Muslims they have to stop destroying the evidence of the older Jewish Temple(s?) and let the Jews worship as well.

Both sides would stop destruction of the other's historical buildings.

47 posted on 08/15/2003 11:11:29 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Destro
Turkey is not our friend and has proven it during the Iraq war.
Israel owns the Temple Mound and should be able to do what ever they want. 
Why is Turkey asking us anyway, muslims dont like Christians any more than they like jews.
I guess what I'm saying is Turkey can go to He!!

48 posted on 08/15/2003 11:47:42 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: sofaman
Jews should not be allowed to pray on the Temple Mount?
perhaps the muslims fear another elisha incident... you know, as in fire falling from heaven and consuming the false prophets of islamikazi insanity.

they alone would be stupid enough to believe that the Jewish God, could only hear on THEIR mountain...

49 posted on 08/16/2003 12:02:13 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (If we just erect a big, expensive stone monument... everything will be alright!)
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To: Destro
What on earth do we owe Turkey?
50 posted on 08/16/2003 12:23:50 AM PDT by Spirited
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To: Robert_Paulson2
When I visited the site in the late 1990's the arrogant and intolerant muslimes allowed no one to pray or open Bibles on the site where Jesus preached and taught. Tour guides collected all religious books and kept them secure from their owners use and access.
51 posted on 08/16/2003 1:05:17 PM PDT by lobo59
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