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To: centurion316
Well, from MY experience, Armor of ANY sort is of limited use in areas with either limited mobility or limited visibility. Urban Combat is both. Give me something small, light, and fast: A HUMMV with a M60 or two top mounted. . .
5 posted on 08/14/2003 12:51:20 PM PDT by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: Salgak
In urban environments nothing is better than LPCs.

They get you where you need to go and are more manueverable than anything else on the battlefield.
12 posted on 08/14/2003 1:06:37 PM PDT by Ispy4u
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To: Salgak
Give me something small, light, and fast: A HUMMV with a M60 or two top mounted. . .

As a guy who just got out of the light cav (HMMWV) as a gunner, vehicle commander, and squad leader, I can say that you're nuts. Most of the casualties since the end of offensive operations in Iraq have been from RPG's and command detonated improvised mines. RPG's kill Humvees, LAV's and other soft-skinned wheeled vehicles easily. Anyone with half a brain knows that third world countries have RPG's out the ying-yang that the locals use for anti-tank, anti-vehicle, hasty artillery, and ambushes. South Africa had specially designed mine proof vehicles back in the eighties! Isreal has M113's fitted with (RPG proof) bolt on armor. But the US Army is using Humvees as convoy escort. Really good freaking idea!
13 posted on 08/14/2003 1:09:36 PM PDT by Tailback
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