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Dr. Laura Loses Her Religion
Forward ^ | 8/15/03 | LISA KEYS

Posted on 08/14/2003 5:50:38 AM PDT by RJCogburn

With 12 million Americans tuning in daily, controversial syndicated radio-show host Laura Schlessinger — known to all as "Dr. Laura" — is arguably the best-known Orthodox Jew in the United States.

Rather, she was.

In a shocking if little-noticed revelation, Schlessinger — who very publicly converted to Judaism five years ago — opened "The Dr. Laura Schlessinger Program" on August 5 with the confession that she will no longer practice Judaism. Although Schlessinger said she still "considers" herself Jewish, "My identifying with this entity and my fulfilling the rituals, etc., of the entity — that has ended."

And with that, Orthodox Judaism lost its loudest mouthpiece and its most prominent "rabbi," as it were, with the largest American pulpit — with the exception of, perhaps, presidential candidate Joseph Lieberman.

Syndicated nationally since 1994, Schlessinger has won over listeners with her hard-edged advice and razor-sharp tongue. Yet her brash style, not to mention her espousal of a strict "moral health" code — including controversial condemnations of homosexuality as "a biological error" — put her at odds with wide swaths of the Jewish community. Many found her moralist, black-and-white, you're-with-me-or- against-me stance to be more representative of Evangelical Christians than of Jews, who were often among her most outspoken critics.

Nonetheless, even Schlessinger's detractors were shocked by the news. "I can't tell you how significant this is," said fellow Jewish media star and "Kosher Sex" author Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, who has sparred with Schlessinger over her comments on homosexuality. "Dr. Laura always equated her morals and ethics with Jewish morals and ethics. That placed the American Jewish community in a real fix; on the one hand, she made Judaism very popular, on the other, she made it vilified and hated by many people."

"I think Judaism is better off not being saddled and directly associated with Dr. Laura's means," he said, adding, "although she is still a Jew."

Schlessinger's office said she was unavailable for comment.

Schlessinger began her August 5 program by noting that, prior to each broadcast, she spends an hour reading faxes from fans and listeners. "By and large the faxes from Christians have been very loving, very supportive," she said. "From my own religion, I have either gotten nothing, which is 99% of it, or two of the nastiest letters I have gotten in a long time. I guess that's my point — I don't get much back. Not much warmth coming back."

Schlessinger even hinted at a possible turn to Christianity — a move that, radio insiders say, would elevate her career far beyond the 300 stations that currently syndicate her show. "I have envied all my Christian friends who really, universally, deeply feel loved by God," she said. "They use the name Jesus when they refer to God... that was a mystery, being connected to God."

In her 25 years on radio, Schlessinger said she was moved "time and time again" by listeners who wrote and described that they had "joined a church, felt loved by God and that was my anchor."

Michael Medved, a conservative, nationally syndicated, radio talk-show host, celebrated the Sabbath with Schlessinger about a year ago. "We had talked about having Shabbat again," he said. When he heard of Schlessinger's defection, "My first response was to pick up the phone and try and expedite [the visit]."

"I think it's a shame," he said. "Though, of course, she was controversial in some eyes, she is one of the most admired women in America. Having the most admired woman in America speak joyously about Passover, Shabbat and Jewish lifestyle events — all of that was quite wonderful."

Of her conversion to Judaism, Schlessinger said, "I felt that I was putting out a tremendous amount toward that mission, that end, and not feeling return, not feeling connected, not feeling that inspired. Trust me, I've talked to rabbis, I've read, I've prayed, I've agonized and I came to this place anyway — which is not exactly back to the beginning, but more in that direction than not."

"Was Laura naive to think, 'gosh, I'll be the queen of the Jews'? Yes, she was naive," said Medved. "Part of that comes from not growing up in the Jewish community. It's so rare to find a celebrity embrace of Jewish religiosity of any kind, I can see why Laura would think her very public embrace would have led to a more enthusiastic reaction. But given all the crosscurrents and controversies that divide our community, I can see why that expectation was wrong."

In 2001, despite the controversy surrounding her, the National Council of Young Israel honored Schlessinger for her "traditional American values." Rabbi Pesach Lerner, the executive director of Young Israel, was surprised by Schlessinger's defection but declined to comment on it.

Born to a Jewish father and an Italian Catholic mother, Schlessinger was raised in Brooklyn in a home that was without religion. Approximately 10 years ago, prompted by a question from her son during a viewing of a Holocaust documentary, Schlessinger, 56, began exploring her Jewish roots.

Yet last week's revelation was far from the first time Schlessinger has been wracked with religious doubts. Lacking a religious background, she has spent a lifetime searching for that missing something, and "each thing I tried left me feeling empty," she told Philadelphia's Inside magazine in 1998. Having already undergone a Conservative conversion in 1997, after a debacle with the Jewish Federation of Greater Dallas — a now-legendary affair in which she allegedly rejected three hotel suites, wouldn't ride in taxis and offended the entire audience at a $500 plate fundraiser — Schlessinger was tempted to give up on Judaism completely, but decided to undergo an Orthodox conversion instead.

"A large part of me wanted to make a statement after that experience, to stand even taller about Jewish values," she told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency in 2001. "Besides, if you don't have an Orthodox conversion, you can't get buried in Israel. I want to be close to ground zero."

Rabbi Reuven Bulka, a fellow radio host who presided over Schlessinger's Orthodox conversion, said he was "stunned" by his friend's 180-degree turn. "It didn't make my day, shall we say."

"She obviously has a tremendous impact," said the congregational rabbi from Ottawa, Ont. "When she went through the evolutionary stage of her journey, a lot of people were inspired by her own excitement about it. I can't tell you I know 100 people who became Sabbath observant because of it, but certainly it was a feel-good message for a lot of people. That these feel-good messages won't be coming anymore is certainly a loss."

Other Jews within earshot are far from sad to see her go. "I don't think this is any great loss to the Jewish universe," said Susan Weidman Schneider, the executive editor of Lilith magazine. "I don't think she was a particularly effective or useful spokesperson. She doubtless alienated more people than she drew toward Judaism."

"So, let her say she's no longer a practicing Jew," she added. "Let her be just a garden variety, anti-choice conservative."

"I still see myself as a Jew," Schlessinger said on the air last week. "But the spiritual journey and that direction, as hardcore as I was at it, just didn't fulfill something in me that I needed."

"All I know is, in my experiences with her — which have been considerable — I haven't known her to do anything less than 100%," Bulka said. "Anything she did, she did fully. The scary thing is if she said she's leaving, it's very forboding."

"I thought she was a tough little lady — I didn't think she'd chicken out so easily," said Rabbi Isaac Levy, the chairman of Jews for Morality, who has staunchly supported Schlessinger's conservative agenda. "She's gotten a couple of kicks in the chin and she's succumbed to it."

"It seems incredible that an ethicist and moralist of her standing would invoke such shallow arguments," said Boteach, who was en route to an appearance on the titillating syndicated television show "Blind Date." "I never got great applause for my work from the Jewish community — but my people are my people, whether they love or hate me."


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To: RJCogburn
Please keep in mind that Dr. Laura is a cast-in-concrete Republican conservative. That alone brings on all kinds of hateful comments from liberals. She publically says she despises all things liberal, including abortion, deserting your family and homos. Most liberal Jews I know are firm backers of those liberal causes. She catches hell from liberals and some Freepers who dispute her stances or her qualification to make them.

I don't listen to her because I can't stand to hear the complaints of the majority of her callers, many of whom who appear to be brain dead and morality-free. I do, however, believe she can change her religion anytime she feels that her religion is not answering her spiritual needs or if the leaders of the religion are not supporting her views. It's her choice, and everyone can make that choice.

141 posted on 08/14/2003 1:12:43 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: Ann Archy
I know what you mean. I've read extensively about Judaism and am saddened about how little traditional Jewish theology is emphasized in Reform and even Conservative congreagations. Orthodox Judaism is much richer in this respect. I've studied the issue of the Jewish view of the afterlife and was heartened to learn that Orthodox Jews do believe in an afterlife, albeit one that may not really start until after the Messiah comes. Orthodox Jews believe that every man has an immortal soul and that soul will be reunited with its body when the Messiah comes and the world is new. Yes, even Orthodox Jews' view of the afterlife is vaguer than Christianity's -- the soul's in a kind of limbo until the Messiah comes -- but there certianly is more reason to hope in Orthodox Judaism than in other (waterd-down) forms of Judaism.
142 posted on 08/14/2003 1:16:52 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: RJCogburn
Being that she's been an ardent moralizer who's been clearly convinced she knows the truth, it'll be interesting to see if Laura's stridency against all of those things she's been scolding people about on her program will ease at all. After all, if she no longer has enough faith in Judaism to practice the religion, she can't possibly be so sure that it's moral teachings are correct, can she?

From reading her monologue from the 8/5 show, it seems to me that she probably converted to Judaism in the midst of a mid-life crisis, only now experiencing the hangover from that desperate act of emotional survival. She even gave the impression that she was less concerned with whether or not Judaism was the truth, then with how the practice of it made her "feel." Very interesting for someone who sanctimoniously dispenses moral advice to millions, basing her wisdom on a multi-thousand year-old belief system which she apparently bought into for almost purely emotional reasons only a decade ago, and now all but discards.

If anything, this revelation should discredit this clearly troubled woman as a source of moral guidance. I'm sorry, but you can't admit to losing faith in the source of your fundamental moral beliefs and continue to excoriate people for "shacking up," for example.

143 posted on 08/14/2003 3:04:21 PM PDT by BearArms
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To: Quix
Q, your response tells me that you are better studied in the subject than I am. And knowing all of the variables in what seems like a similar situation, can change said situations enough to bring different conclusions. But, Dr. Laura DOES NOT dive into details to any degree of depthness. I am smart enough to realize that. The two situations were VERY equal.

Caller 1: Dr. Laura, my father left when I was 12. I did not see him again. He has passed away recently, and at the time I found out he was remarried with two children. His second wife insisted that it is important that I now stay in touch with his other two children in order to give them a sense of family. Should I feel obligated to become a family with these two children?

Dr. Laura: Absolutely not. Your father did not bother to include you in his life with his other children. You owe those two kids nothing.

ONE WEEK LATER

Caller 2: Dr. Laura, my father recently passed away. I had not seen him in years. Not even holidays. My mother and I have found out that he has two kids from a second marriage. My mother told me that I should contact the young kids and get to know them. I told her that I thought she was nuts, and that I was not the least bit interested. My mother and I are now arguing over this, who is right?

Dr. Laura (the same Dr. Laura): Your mother is right. Those kids are your flesh and blood. They are you half-siblings, they are part of you. It would be very important that you be in there life.

Quix, I do not know which is the right answer, but I know it is not both. Dr. Laura DID NOT have each kid on a couch for three sessions, they both asked a one sentence question. Now, go seize the day!

144 posted on 08/14/2003 7:02:16 PM PDT by LandofLincoln
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To: LandofLincoln
A) You could be quite right.

B) Even if BOTH said EXACTLY the SAME words, the VOICE TONES ALONE *COULD* have been enough for a sensitive or even just a LOT experienced counselor OR EVEN ADVICE COLUMNIST to sense that one way was better with one caller and a different way with the other.

C) The words and situations were NOT precisely the same. In one, the 2nd wife insisted the caller be in the lives of the kids. In the 2nd one, the caller's mother insisted. Those are TWO VERY DIFFERENT VARIABLES. In one, we have 12 years old as the date of parting with the Dad. In another we have no definite time.

D) It is ENTIRELY POSSIBLE that on one day, Dr Laura was feeling quite berift of family and all gahgah about family in general and therefore much more apt to give answers in the direction of family togetherness.

That's a hazard we all face when we give suggestions whether we are professional or not. Professionals have tons of training and personal therapy to minimize such hazards but they are still there in the best of us.

Callers to such programs even with professional therapists should realize that they are getting a quick and dirty/off the cuff almost reactionary input to the slimmist slivers of input/questions. Accordingly, they might well take it with a grain of salt or at most--pray earnestly about it and talk about it extensively with wise persons in their network before making significant changes based on it.

I think Dr Laura's great service to the nation and callers is her rather over the top insistance that people take responsibility for their behavior and that they stand up to ther crazy persons pinging on them.

That's quite a lot of good in anyone's life whether they are bonkers in a dozen ways or not.

Anyway--I understand your perspective. Just wanted you to consider other possibilities and perhaps be a bit less judgmental of Dr Laura. I think she handles most callers very responsibly, wisely and admirably if not always with the compassion and gentleness they might more need.

Thanks for your kind replies.
145 posted on 08/14/2003 7:30:18 PM PDT by Quix (DEFEAT her unroyal lowness, her hideous heinous Bwitch Shrillery Antoinette de Fosterizer de MarxNOW)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
"I always had her pegged as a shallow opportunist."

its interesting to me how inconsistant she is about her "Jewishness" to begin with....

she always informed callers that if the mother was Jewish, the kids are considered Jewish.....but the DR's mom was Catholic...

I honestly think that the good Dr. is one very bitter and sad person, you can tell that in her answers to some people...

she seems to have gotten meaner over the years...an almost elitist attitude to the many people who call her...as if HER own life has been perfect....which I don't think is true...

146 posted on 08/14/2003 7:39:23 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Quix
D) It is ENTIRELY POSSIBLE that on one day, Dr Laura was feeling quite berift of family and all gahgah about family in general and therefore much more apt to give answers in the direction of family togetherness.

Right. But she passes herself off as a professional, and the poor souls who call her are at the mercy of these "whims"

She's rude and condescending, and, although I agree with a lot of her opinions, she is NOT all she thinks herself to be.

147 posted on 08/14/2003 8:26:11 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: The Coopster
How many people do you know

ARE ALL THEY THINK THEMSELVES TO BE?

I don't like arrogance and unnecessary rudeness, harshness either.

But God puts up with the warts on all of us until He decides it's time to get rid of them and require our cooperation.

Certainly at this point, callers into her show are unlikely to expect to be treated with fur lined kid gloves.

But I think gentleness and compassion are virtually always a good choice. NOT ALWAYS, THOUGH.
148 posted on 08/14/2003 8:33:22 PM PDT by Quix (DEFEAT her unroyal lowness, her hideous heinous Bwitch Shrillery Antoinette de Fosterizer de MarxNOW)
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To: Quix
My point was that she poses as a professional so that she can "help" people (usually by berating/insulting them - what a cure, huh?).

As a "professional", she shouldn't be subject to emotional whims that cause her to give radically different advice to two identical problems. Or rather, she shouldn't allow those emotions to color her judgment. Of course, that's the bulk of what she does - judges.
149 posted on 08/14/2003 8:42:34 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: The Coopster
I've lived and counseled long enough to know that SOME PEOPLE do need verbally knocked up-side the head sufficiently to wake them up that the old ways of handling their lives are not going to work and that they MUST seriously start applying some new ones--almost any new ones.

I recognize her flaws. Your points are well taken. I don't think they are horrid enough to stop her from the great good she does.

Anyone overly fragile would do well not to call her. Anyone listening and too dumb to realize that and then call her--ALMOST deserves to get their tail feathers singed enough that they don't pull the same silly stunt the next time.

I do believe she has learned SOMEWHAT over the years but I haven't listened to her in a long time. So, what do I know. I'm just glad she's on and that she helps all the people she does.

None of us are 100% safe with 100% of those we touch 100% of the time.
150 posted on 08/14/2003 8:57:31 PM PDT by Quix (DEFEAT her unroyal lowness, her hideous heinous Bwitch Shrillery Antoinette de Fosterizer de MarxNOW)
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To: Quix
I agree that she most often tells people to take responsiblity for there own lives. And I am on board with that concept. But, nobody should be put on a pedestal for that, just because others don't do it. What she practices is nothing more than store front therapy, for the sole purpose of commercialism. Have a good weekend!
151 posted on 08/15/2003 5:37:55 AM PDT by LandofLincoln
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To: The Coopster
"So, do your privates need to be blessed by a rabbi?"

No,there is a certain sect that doesn't believe their bodies should touch each other when they have sex.What they have is a cloth that covers her body with a whole in it.

152 posted on 08/15/2003 6:00:24 AM PDT by painter
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To: Chollent
Welcome to FreeRepublic, newbie. We all hope you enjoy your exchanges here.

"What's with Judaism that it confronts a newcomer with such hatred merely because she urges people to adhere to traditional Jewish moral values? Why are Christians more loving? Is it possible the Christians have something the Jews don't?"

Please allow me to draw your attention to the fact that I installed quotation marks around this statement. I was paraphrasing what Dr. Laura said: that she has received very little acceptance from the Jewish community and lots from Christians, and it's making her think. You see, it's not my experience that Jews are less loving and warm than Christians. In point of fact, many years ago the generosity of the Jewish people saved my life, and I have been grateful ever since. I consider myself a Zionist, and have raised money--lots of money--for Jewish charity. I am not the one saying that the orthodox Jewish community is unaccepting--Dr. Laura is.

I'm not going to even attempt to defend Christianity to you; you seem quite consumed with hatred, some of which is understandable, and there's nothing I can say to show you the beauty and majesty of the Faith. But I will agree that it's a grief, a horror, an evil, and the work of Satan that men whose sole purpose in life is to extend God's word woulld use their position to gratify their sick lusts with such cruelty. Satan has the ability to invade and pervert beautiful things. But the rape of children is not inherent in Christianity or part of Christian teachings. One of the great evils is not just the harm to individual children, but to people all over the world, like you, for whom the errors in the Catholic Church make all Christianity a subject of hatred.

154 posted on 08/15/2003 7:01:32 AM PDT by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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To: CajunConservative
When someone is seeking unconditional love and inner peace there is only one true source. She's been seeking all her life from the sounds of things and the Bible says that if you seek you will find.

Yep.

155 posted on 08/15/2003 7:04:46 AM PDT by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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To: LandofLincoln
Have met a lot of professional shrinks with all the degrees and licenses who do tons more damage than Dr Laura.

She has a particular mission. I think she does it well. Let the buyer/caller beware of her prickly aspects. They can call someone else if they are too much pansies.

I say that thinking--yeah--Quix--and you are the super compassionate one always for the mangled underdog guilty as sin that no one else can bear to be gentle toward.

I don't like her crass abusive tone or comments. I do recognize some people need such slaps up against the head to just wake them up to minimal reality and rationality.

I don't see her as money grubbing. I see her as a crusader against social decay that has been at Olympic class levels for decades.

I actually see her with a passionate love for people and for her culture, society.

Just IMHO.
156 posted on 08/15/2003 8:14:07 AM PDT by Quix (DEFEAT her unroyal lowness, her hideous heinous Bwitch Shrillery Antoinette de Fosterizer de MarxNOW)
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To: Chollent
And if Jews aren't loving how do you account for the massive amounts of charity that they bestow not just on their own but on the wider society? When a Jew is in trouble it's to a Jewish charity that they will invariably turn. And of the large gifts (over $10 million) given by individuals to charity in the U.S. between 1995 and 2002, fully 25% was given by Jews (with only 6% going to Jewish charities) even though there are a mere 5 million of them in America.

From where did you get your statistics ?

157 posted on 08/15/2003 8:56:31 AM PDT by A_Thinker
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To: Quix
Would like to buy a Dr. Laura coffee mug, or t-shirt.
158 posted on 08/15/2003 10:28:51 AM PDT by LandofLincoln
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To: FourPeas
As a Christian, when someone chooses to leave Christianity, I am concerned about their soul, their life, not how it will play out publicity-wise.

They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

1 John 2:19


I got a lotta livin' to do before I die, and I ain't got time to waste.

159 posted on 08/15/2003 10:36:48 AM PDT by rdb3 (I'm not a complete idiot. Several parts are missing.)
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To: painter
No,there is a certain sect that doesn't believe their bodies should touch each other when they have sex.What they have is a cloth that covers her body with a whole in it.

What sect is that?

160 posted on 08/15/2003 10:46:52 AM PDT by Inyokern
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