To: StolarStorm
If I may further expound here. Natural selection meaning "naturally selected" to survive or become extinct is a fact. Our environment is ever changing and with those changes come other changes. I doubt that creationists deny that fact.
It is my understanding that the very root of the evolution theory begins with an explanation, any explanation of origins as long a God or a special creator is not in the picture. A Godless creation if you will.
To: concisetraveler
That's not my position. I believe simply that God created the universe with a set of natural laws that would result in the outcome that we see today. Something had to initiate the big bang that is outside natural laws (something can't come from nothing).
I could be wrong. Unlike the brain washed, I'm very aware that there isn't a person living on this planet that really knows how everything came about. But as things stand now, the vast amount of evidence suggests that the world is far older than 6000 years and that we have tailbones for a reason. You can make facts fit a theory or have a theory you make up facts to fit. Ignoring the way the world really is to fit some odd intrepretation of a story about creation that was written for people mostly ignorant of science, is insulting to God. My God is all powerful and fully capable of creating the universe from the beginning knowing that several billions of years later, we come about. And so far research has know that's what he did. When someone can intelligently explain to me why I have a tailbone I might re-evaluate my position.
To: concisetraveler
Evolution does NOT seek to explain origins and never has.
Once life was here, evolution takes over.
If it was planted, god started it, whether it just popped out of nothing, evolution does not care, and does not say, it does not seek to answer that question.
Abiogenesis is the hypothesis that is seeking to explain the origins of life, and that is what it is, a hypothesis.
324 posted on
08/16/2003 10:40:00 AM PDT by
Aric2000
(If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
To: concisetraveler
It is my understanding that the very root of the evolution theory begins with an explanation, any explanation of origins as long a God or a special creator is not in the picture. A Godless creation if you will. Buzz, wrong. There are many theistic evolutions here that credit God for both the Creation and evolution.
345 posted on
08/16/2003 11:26:35 AM PDT by
balrog666
(Ignorance is no excuse.)
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