[Right Wing Professor]

What I find interesting is how those posters who previously used to discuss science from the YEC side seem to have tossed in the towel. Thus, while DittoJed2 was going through the 'no transitional fossils'...'genome shows design'...'radiometric dating doesn't work' litany, there were a couple who would egg her on, but hardly anyone jumped in on her side. However, when it reached its inevitable 'evos are Nazis' conclusion, and she gave up, we had the chorus of 'Christians are being silenced' complaints, from posters who had been silent all along. Gosh, if you were disturbed at a 10 vs. 1 dispute, and were sympathetic to the 1, wouldn't you jump in? Well, maybe or maybe not, depending on how brave or scared you were.

I'm wondering if some posters are coming to the realization that you can't sustain a scientific argument for YEC, and are genuinely at a loss how to proceed.

[js1138]

I'm wondering if some posters are coming to the realization that you can't sustain a scientific argument for YEC, and are genuinely at a loss how to proceed.

I don't think you can make a good scientific argument for YEC, but I think it is a good exercise to force the science crowd to defend their conclusions. Working scientists take this stuff as given and don't have time to defend the foundations of their assumptions. It's up to teachers (and some of us amateurs) interested in the history of science to take the time necessary to defend science.

It's also interesting to see the ID folks apply skepticism to the conclusions of science. Sauce for the goose.

when the debate goes south, I miss it.

[PatrickHenry]

I'm wondering if some posters are coming to the realization that you can't sustain a scientific argument for YEC, and are genuinely at a loss how to proceed.

Well, having failed to convince anyone that their "science" has any merit, they then resorted to thuggery, by attempting to be so disruptive that we'd all give up and go away. Having failed in that -- quite substantially -- they are now grumbling that some dark "anti-Christian" conspiracy is afoot to silence them. One or two of them talk as if they may actually believe such nonsense. As we've seen so often in these threads, some people can make themselves believe anything.