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To: AndrewC; gore3000
If Nakatu X can convince others, then there might be hope for the agreement. I wish Nakatu X well.

*sweatdrop* You sure don't have low expectations, do you? If I expressed my entire thoughts about the situation, I'd probably make an enemy out of nearly everyone involved. Emotions are extremely high, everyone's very defensive, and for anyone to try to "make peace" would be like hammering cold steel into a sword. The time is not right for either side.

Ecclesiastes 3:1,7-8 1 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under heaven: ...
7 a time to tear and a time to mend, a time to be silent and a time to speak,
8 a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.
Both sides need to have an opportunity where they can talk about their frustrations in a calm, reasoned manner, and to be open-minded and open-hearted when others speak about them. But, you have my promise that I will try my best to bring this about, but you think too highly of me.

Even though you both are no longer party to the agreement, I encourage you to suggest provisions and create "suggested guidelines" that you believe may help avoid situations like this one? Committees, formalized way of bringing charges, jokes between members, et cetera?
288 posted on 08/15/2003 9:28:37 PM PDT by Nataku X (Never give Bush any power you wouldn't want to give to Hillary.)
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To: Nakatu X
I encourage you to suggest provisions and create "suggested guidelines" that you believe may help avoid situations like this one?

The very first version of the agreement was acceptable. When the shaping and gouging progressed on, one could see the weapon being fashioned. Proponents from one side needed loophole after loophole for their tastes. Those proponents were the first to use that weapon. Meanwhile, they continued their belittling behavior on a newcomer to the threads. We do not need to call people names. We also do not need scarlet letters pinned on people.

292 posted on 08/15/2003 9:49:37 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Nakatu X
Even though you both are no longer party to the agreement,

I tried, one of the things they said was that those who were not part of the agreement had no right to correct one who had taken part in the agreement. In other words they consdired everyone else a 2nd class citizen and themselves above any rules.

298 posted on 08/15/2003 11:41:52 PM PDT by gore3000 (Intelligent people do not believe in evolution.)
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