To: CobaltBlue
"I'll willingly concede that Hitler wasn't a good Christian if you'll concede that he wasn't a good Darwinist. ;^)"
Whether or not he was a darwinist, I don't care. As far as applying the title of 'Christian' to him I will object to because of the gross distortion of the definition.
2,800 posted on
08/25/2003 3:23:18 PM PDT by
Godzilla
(If you're living like there's no hell - you'd better be right.)
To: Godzilla
I don't think Christianity was important to Hitler, nor was it important to National Socialism. Some Nazis were nominally Christians, many more loathed Christianity.
The flip side, the reaction of Christians to National Socialism, I think is more telling. The only effective resistance to National Socialist policies came from Christians, who had some support from the populace, e.g., opposition to euthanasia.
Many Christians were put into concentration camps and executed, especially Polish Catholic priests.
2,805 posted on
08/25/2003 3:37:09 PM PDT by
CobaltBlue
(Never voted for a Democrat in my life.)
To: Godzilla
On the other hand, if you look at the relationship between conservative Christians, especially Catholics, and fascism, there is plenty of fruitful ground for study, especially in Italy, Spain, Portugal, and Argentina.
It seems to me that we tend to forget that fascism held itself out as an antidote to Bolshevism, in large part because present day conservative political scientists have successfully argued that fascism and Bolshevism had much in common.
During the 1930's and 1940's, otherwise sane people admired Mussolini and Hitler as alternatives to Stalin. In fact, I once had the entertaining privilege of arguing with a former East German whose theory was that we should have stood back and let Hitler and Stalin fight each other to the death, rather than allying with the Russians.
East Germans, you see, had reasons to hate Communists far worse than they had to hate Nazis. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, don't you know?
2,808 posted on
08/25/2003 3:49:16 PM PDT by
CobaltBlue
(Never voted for a Democrat in my life.)
To: Godzilla
Whether or not he was a darwinist, I don't care. As far as applying the title of 'Christian' to him I will object to because of the gross distortion of the definition. I agree with that last point. If Hitler was a Christian than Marilyn Manson is the pope.
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