DittoJed2, those of us who are among the willing agree that we cannot read one another's minds and thus will not attribute beliefs and motives. More specifically, we agree not to accuse someone of being a Marxist, a Nazi, etc. because they believe in evolution.
The accusation leads to flame wars - always. The counter argument against the Church likewise leads to flame wars - always, and in-fighting as science threads become doctrinal show-downs between denominations, particularly Catholics v. Protestants. To that end, we also agree that we will never demand another Freeper disavow a belief or swear to a belief he does not hold.
Therefore, to keep the peace on science threads, we eschew all such arguments. I strongly recommend to all on this thread not to engage in any such discussion!