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To: DittoJed2
LOL, or perhaps my faith enjoys the science and wishes it to continue until we know as much as we can know.

Your faith on the other hand is threatened by it, or perhaps you choose NOT to ignore these threads because you wish to save our souls?

I find it fascinating when Creationists and fundamentalists come onto these threads and throw things from AIG around like they are gospel of some sort and toss out phrases like if you understand evolution then you are an atheist etc.

Why do you come to these threads then?

We are quite happy to discuss the science between ourselves, and when a creationist comes in and starts throwing strawmen, it can get a little tiresome.

If you do not like evolution, or do not like science, then leave the science/evolution threads alone.

What is so hard about that?

I find fundamentalist creationists fascinating in the fact that they absoluteley have to become involved in these discussions, when the only science that they get is from church or the AIG.

We have a couple of very interesting posters from your side, at least they understand science, and don't fight it with their faith, they discuss it through science, Yes, AndrewC, I am talking about you, as well as A-G.

Anyway, please understand that most of us here are Theistic evolutionists, in one way shape or form or another.

We are quite happy and content in our faith and in the actual sciences as well.

This is why we have such a hard time understanding how people could actually view science as a threat to their faith.

Me, I just find it amusing.

If you are so threatened by science and the scientific method, then please understand when I say you are the one with the faith problem.

2,495 posted on 08/25/2003 9:53:14 AM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Aric2000
LOL, or perhaps my faith enjoys the science and wishes it to continue until we know as much as we can know.
Well, at least you are admitting part of your love of evolutionary science is a faith thing.

Your faith on the other hand is threatened by it, or perhaps you choose NOT to ignore these threads because you wish to save our souls?

I can "save" nobody's soul. I can proclaim the truth. What you do with it is your choice.

I find it fascinating when Creationists and fundamentalists come onto these threads and throw things from AIG around like they are gospel of some sort and toss out phrases like if you understand evolution then you are an atheist etc.
I never said such a thing. I do believe, however, that people who claim to be "theistic" evolutionists are not being true either to the Scriptural record or necessarily even to Darwinism. They are certainly not biblicists, though being a theistic evolutionist does not make one not a Christian. It does make one inconsistent with Scripture.

Why do you come to these threads then?
Actually, because the rest of the story needs to be told.

We are quite happy to discuss the science between ourselves, and when a creationist comes in and starts throwing strawmen, it can get a little tiresome.

So can being told that evolution is "fact" when scientists themselves can't even agree as to the "facts".

If you do not like evolution, or do not like science, then leave the science/evolution threads alone.
Science and evolution are two different things. And, I will join in on any thread I wish, thank you very much.

What is so hard about that?

I find fundamentalist creationists fascinating in the fact that they absoluteley have to become involved in these discussions, when the only science that they get is from church or the AIG.



This is a lie. Many of the creationists and I.D. ers who do not buy Darwinism are accredited scientists. You would like to ignore that fact, but it is the truth.

We have a couple of very interesting posters from your side, at least they understand science, and don't fight it with their faith, they discuss it through science, Yes, AndrewC, I am talking about you, as well as A-G.

Anyway, please understand that most of us here are Theistic evolutionists, in one way shape or form or another.


I understand. I'm just saying if you are a Theistic evolutionist and claim to be a Christian, you are going on blind faith because you have discredited a large portion of Scripture itself in your mind- a portion that Jesus himself took literally. I never said you couldn't be a Christian and an Evolutionist, or that all theistic evolutionists were biblicists.

We are quite happy and content in our faith and in the actual sciences as well.

This is why we have such a hard time understanding how people could actually view science as a threat to their faith.


I don't view Science as a threat to my faith. Not at all. What I do view as a threat, more than to faith, is the teaching that life is here by chance and we are all just highly evolved animals. It is not a threat to me, but to the children growing up who are having it shoved down their throat from the first "millions of years ago Dinosaurs evolved..." to the science professor who mocks even the mention of creation. Darwinism is an evil religion. And it has helped to produce absolute evil in this world (oh, evil existed, but it lent itself very well to backing up evil philosophies such as Nazism).

Me, I just find it amusing.
I'm not the least amused.

If you are so threatened by science and the scientific method, then please understand when I say you are the one with the faith problem
Why do you keep making the allegation that I am "threatened" by science and the scientific method. This is part of the arrogance of Darwinism. If you disagree, obviously you are threatened by something. Hogwash. Your theory is bunk. BUNK. And, anyone without a college degree who has witnessed the intricate nature of a human being, or has seen the glory of God in creation could tell you that- without being threatened in the least).
2,518 posted on 08/25/2003 10:19:51 AM PDT by DittoJed2
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