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To: Right Wing Professor; PatrickHenry; Nakatu X; <1/1,000,000th%
For anyone still following the research into the antiquity of the book of Enoch (to determine the import of the statements about Astronomy) - here’s a “dig” from the Latter Day Saints’ corner:

Enoch Calendar Testifies of Christ, Part I

Modern scholars, beginning with Laurence, all date the origin of the book to the first or second century before Christ, hence it is assigned to the "pseudepigrapha," meaning it is not believed to have been written by the named author. It is dated using standard "scholarly" methods. One rule of dating used by modern scholars, is that if anything is prophesied which turns out to be correct, it must have been written after the event, because otherwise the author would really have to have been a prophet! This complete rejection of the entire concept of revelation forced Laurence to put the authorship of the Book of Enoch extremely late because he saw that it prophesied not only the existence of Parthia (250 B.C.), but even the reign of King Herod the Great, which began in 37 B.C. On the other hand, it was quoted by the Savior and his apostles so it must have been written before their time. Thus Laurence inferred that the book had been written "before the rise of Christianity; most probably at an early period of the reign of Herod."[8] More modern scholarship has concluded that the book was probably written by several authors over the period of about 180-64 B.C.[9] This extremely recent authorship date of course raises the question of how such a late forgery could have been so totally accepted as genuine in just a few decades, which has never been adequately explained.

In this article, let us consider the outrageous possibility that the work was actually originally written by the prophet Enoch long before the Great Flood and contains many genuine revelations.[10] It probably also contains some interpolations of men, and has suffered from mistakes introduced by the many hand-made transcriptions. But for the purposes of this article, when it says that an angel revealed to Enoch a divine calendar, those statements will be taken at face value. One scientific way to test a hypothesis is to assume it is true and examine the consequences. Let us now apply that method to the astronomy contained in the Book of Enoch.


2,354 posted on 08/24/2003 7:21:58 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
One scientific way to test a hypothesis is to assume it is true and examine the consequences. Let us now apply that method to the astronomy contained in the Book of Enoch.

Yeah, but ... this utterly flunks the application Ockham's Razor. If one is going to assume that a book was written so early that its contents are thus prophetic, with no reason for that assumption other than it is said to be "scientific," I have some serious doubts about the results that will be obtained. Sorry, Alamo-Girl, I just don't see any wild implications to be drawn from Enoch. Not unless someone flat-out wants that result. But by nature, I'm a "show me" kinda guy. (I know, you're not surprised.)

2,359 posted on 08/24/2003 8:43:04 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
Very interesting! How indeed did Jesus's contemporaries accept the Book of Enoch as scriptural in such a short time? Time to dust off those Bible history textbooks. :o)
2,368 posted on 08/24/2003 10:21:29 AM PDT by Nataku X (Never give Bush any power you wouldn't want to give to Hillary.)
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