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To: StolarStorm
I would not say someone who was a theistic evolutionist was not a Christian. However, I don't think it is fair to accuse young earthers of driving folks from Christ either. There is a lot of evidence to support a young earth and Old earth dating methods are extremely flawed and based on a lot of assumptions. Things such as C14 and K-Ar Dating don't work when applying them to things of known age and yet the evolutionists want us to believe they work when applied to things of unknown age. Fossils are dated by the layer of sediment they are in (based upon one man's conception of a Geological column) and yet the sediment has been dated by what fossils are in it. Layers of sediment are said to be millions and millions of years old and yet have undecayed petrified tree stumps throughout them all over the world. The Grand Canyon is supposed to be the result of that little river running through it for ages, and yet, its entry point is about 3,000 feet below the highest point. Rivers don't run uphill, and the canyon wasn't created that way. Finally, so much of current origins science is based upon faulty assumptions such as the current conditions we are in have always been constant. C14 is seen to decay at a constant rate. The speed of light is seen as the same (light years is a distance, not a speed) and yet it has been controlled, slowed down, sped up in a lab, and we know that it has naturally been slowing down over the years. You see, evolutionary scientists would love for the world to believe that they have all of the answers, even if it means practicing some really bad science.To correct the record, I believe it is incumbent upon the informed Christian to speak up whenever and wherever possible to keep folks from falling for the lie of the past couple of centuries.
222 posted on 08/15/2003 2:01:39 PM PDT by DittoJed2
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To: DittoJed2
I know for a fact that young earters drive people from Christ. I have witnessed that very thing. And it just isn't necessary as the bible does leave room for evolution. I'm sure you've heard all the arguments before... like the mistranslation of day in King James and so forth. I won't rehash old stuff you've read a thousand times.
225 posted on 08/15/2003 2:15:21 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: DittoJed2
Things such as C14 and K-Ar Dating don't work when applying them to things of known age

Untrue. In fact C-14 dating is now routinely calibrated using dendrochronology.

The Grand Canyon is supposed to be the result of that little river running through it for ages, and yet, its entry point is about 3,000 feet below the highest point.

So there was geological uplift of a mountain range in the interim. What's the problem?

The speed of light is seen as the same (light years is a distance, not a speed) and yet it has been controlled, slowed down, sped up in a lab, and we know that it has naturally been slowing down over the years.

The speed of light in the vacuum has never been altered. Its apparent speed in a medium can be reduced, but not (AFAIK) increased. And claims it has changed over time do not stand up to careful scrutiny.

229 posted on 08/15/2003 2:19:58 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: DittoJed2
Fossils are dated by the layer of sediment they are in (based upon one man's conception of a Geological column)

One man's?!

276 posted on 08/15/2003 6:24:00 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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