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To: DittoJed2
It is new information perception wise...

Then I don't know what definition of information you use.
Meaning is dependent on perception but then it is not quantifiable as is the case with information.

...but it does not change the fundamental nature of the pie. It is still a pie.

And orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees, bonobos and humans are still hominoids.

1,712 posted on 08/20/2003 3:14:56 PM PDT by BMCDA
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To: BMCDA
They are classified as such by human beings. What I am saying is that you can not take the pie, inject it with icing and call it a cake. You have a pie with icing (yuck!). You do not have a species with certain genetic information and have it developing into a creature whose genetic information it does not possess. There are specific elements which make us humans and apes apes. Evolution hasn't even come close to proving that humans and apes share the same ancestor, nor will they because they are completely different kinds of beings.
1,734 posted on 08/20/2003 6:33:18 PM PDT by DittoJed2
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