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To: DittoJed2
http://www.icr.org/research/jb/largescaletectonics.htm

Baumgartner's bizarre and almost unreadable paper is mostly flying under the radar of mainstream science. A more layman-comprehensible narrative of the flood-model geology is presented in this ICR paper from the same year (1994) which Baumgartner partially authored.

Indeed, this is Walt Brown's hydroplate in a more sophisticated treatment. Baumgartner's new wrinkle is "runaway subduction," to power the high-speed slamming about of continents. Some of the more risible aspects of Brown's geology have been discarded.

Many of the problems apparently remain. As in the Walt Brown model, the high-energy kinetics might well have boiled the oceans. That and other problems are discussed on this message board. ("Arm waving" is another part of it.)

More direct counterindications of the YEC models are mentioned here on Rates of Plate Movement During the Phanerozoic. The conclusion:

YEC tectonic models in which Pangaea is rifted apart and its fragments displaced to more or less their present positions during Noah's Flood, about 4500 years ago, are not consistent with presently measured motions, with rates indicated for the Phanerozoic by radiometric data, or with the distribution of deep sea sediments.

1,680 posted on 08/20/2003 1:38:26 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: DittoJed2
Left out the link in my last post which actually detailed the "boiling oceans" calculations and now I can't find it again. It turns out however that Baumgardner's own figures agree.

Runaway subduction. John Baumgardner created the runaway subduction model, which proposes that the pre-Flood lithosphere (ocean floor), being denser than the underlying mantle, began sinking. The heat released in the process decreased the viscosity of the mantle, so the process accelerated catastrophically. All the original lithosphere became subducted; the rising magma which replaced it raised the ocean floor, causing sea levels to rise and boiling off enough of the ocean to cause 150 days of rain. When it cooled, the ocean floor lowered again, and the Flood waters receded. Sedimentary mountains such as the Sierras and Andes rose after the Flood by isostatic rebound. [Baumgardner, 1990a; Austin et al., 1994]

Problems with a Global Flood, 2nd Edition.
1,694 posted on 08/20/2003 2:09:21 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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