[js1138]

Most of us do not make fun of Behe. (ok, a little fun, but not slam up against a wall disrespect.) The interesting thing is that Behe says things that aren't acceptable to most creationists and are completely unacceptable to Young Earth Creationists. For example, he accepts evolution and common descent. At least he doesn't try to disprove them.

He differes from Darwinists only on the mechanism of variation, which he says is programmed from the time of creatin. This is not really incompatible with Darwinian evolution, except that Darwinists would argue it is impossible to prove or disprove.

[DittoJed2]

And I would respect Behe's right to dissent from the YEC point of view. I don't throw any scientist's work out just because he says some things I disagree with. I believe a lot of evolutionary scientists are probably extremely good at their work. I just disagree with them on their view of origins and would not label any of them a "joke." I wish some of the evolution camp would take some of the highly credentialled folks that just happen to disagree with them and treat them with the same respect. Much of what is proposed is just differing views of the same evidence. Some may be stronger than others, but the going view is that if it is creationist, young earth, whatever, it is to be dismissed along with the promoter of such evidence. Creation scientists are having to sue to get their stuff published. A lot of what the better scientists have discovered can't even be heard by the scientific community as a whole, unless they search the internet. Not a very open forum for dissenting views.