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To: DittoJed2
Cite, please.

Gallup Poll. 1997

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/evolutionviews990816.html

     Among scientists, only 5 percent hold the literal Bible view, 40 percent believe in theistic evolution and a majority, 55 percent, believe in evolution without help from God.

So 95% believe in evolution; most claiming it is entiirely naturalistic, a smaller number think it happened with some guidance from God, and only 5% adhering to a strictly biblical view.

Since there is no proof that Christians believed in a flat earth at any point in time, and since it has become evident that libelous flat earth tag can't be found towards Christians before 1830, saying that Christians believed the earth was a flat disk is just idiotic and shows extreme prejudice on your part. The Bible says the earth is round. Christians believe the Bible.

As I understand it, and I'm not a Hebrew scholar, but there are several here on FR, the passage in Isaiah that translates to 'the circle of the earth', uses a Hebrew word that means circle or disk. It does not mean sphere. Therefore, to claim the Bible says there is a spherical earth is fallacious.

Some Christians, particularly in the early middle ages, did believe in a flat earth. For example, there is the famous sixth century map of Cosmas Indicopleutes which shows a flat earth with four corners.

Your accusations of prejudice on my part are ad hominem and unjustified.

What in the sam-hill do you think panspermia is supposed to be saying

That life arrived on earth from elsewhere. it just avoids the question of the origin of life. It does not answer it.

151 posted on 08/15/2003 7:51:46 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
Among scientists, only 5 percent hold the literal Bible view, 40 percent believe in theistic evolution and a majority, 55 percent, believe in evolution without help from God.

Darwin may have been a theist at the time he write Origin of the Species, but that is highly suspect. He was a seminarian at one point, true, but his inclusion of new species being created at the hand of God in Origins was put in there under intense pressure by the publishers. Darwinian evolution as it is taught and believed today is godless and it was Darwinian evolution that I said 55% of scientists believed in in my post.

As I understand it, and I'm not a Hebrew scholar, but there are several here on FR, the passage in Isaiah that translates to 'the circle of the earth', uses a Hebrew word that means circle or disk. It does not mean sphere. Therefore, to claim the Bible says there is a spherical earth is fallacious.
It is not fallacious. There was no word for "sphere" in ancient Hebrew (and I have had Hebrew as well).

Some Christians, particularly in the early middle ages, did believe in a flat earth. For example, there is the famous sixth century map of Cosmas Indicopleutes which shows a flat earth with four corners.
The church fathers rejected the work of Cosmas Indicopleustes. A flat earth was never held by the church as a whole or even in majority. Washington Irving has been the one to popularize that slur and evolutionists love to harp on that falsehood to this day.

Your accusations of prejudice on my part are ad hominem and unjustified.
I disagree.

What in the sam-hill do you think panspermia is supposed to be saying

That life arrived on earth from elsewhere. it just avoids the question of the origin of life. It does not answer it.

No, teacher. Panspermia teaches that life on earth did not happen by chance but that it came here (in Crick's view) on rocket ships from some other highly intelligent society someplace else. Why would Crick come up with this wild theory? Because he can observe that evolution as taught is not possible on this planet, so he has to invent some other hypothesis whereby on some other planet in his fantasy world life could have evolved and be sent here. Not very scientific, if you ask me. The utter refusal to admit that the earth shows intelligent design and that this design could have even possibly come from God is the epitomy of prejudice and close-minded bigotry and is not worthy of a scientist.
174 posted on 08/15/2003 9:40:43 AM PDT by DittoJed2
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To: Right Wing Professor
the passage in Isaiah that translates to 'the circle of the earth',...

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451 posted on 08/16/2003 8:58:20 PM PDT by bondserv
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