[bondserv]

YOU are the one struggling and strangling against biblical truth.

I NEVER said there were NO creationists before the 1600's, I said there were no LITERALISTS before the 1600's.

Creationism was a given, god made the heaven and the earth, but the literal truth of genesis is a relatively new phenomenon.

Literalism is new, creationism is not, there is a HUGE difference!!

I thought you said you had a degree in this stuff?

Your argument on this one is with Jesus, Paul, John, Peter, James, Jude and all of the other New Testament writers, who according to you believed a fairy tale.

[Aric2000]

And show me one spot in the NT where Jesus said to take Genesis literally. Show me one spot where he said anything other then, god created the heaven and the earth.

Show me where he said that Adam and Eve are the father and mother of the human race, show me one spot where he dicussed the genesis account in a literal way, and not as allegory or morality tale.

Jesus was a RABBI, a Jewish scholar, he knew that Genesis was NOT literal, just as many of his same day Rabbi's knew the same thing.

Genesis and the bible taken as an entire literalist whole is a new phenomenon, you should know this, it's out there just waiting to be read, a little internet search, a little bit of actual research, a little bit of talking to priests rabbi's and biblical scholars will net you ALL of this information. You just have to look for it.