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To: StolarStorm
StolarStorm, don't start. Aric's post regarding Christian beliefs was, frankly, vain babblings not informed at all by reality. To suggest that most "biblical schlolars" don't take Genesis literally is just nuts! To suggest that there werent' creationists before the early 1600s is equally nuts. Aric has continued to attack, but I've seen no evidence on his behalf to back up his assertions. I have tried, to the best of my ability, to answer all of the questions these "open minded" evolutionists have hurled at me and have been called all sorts of names along the way. I have persisted, not for your all's sake, because I know that you will cling to the sacred theory until the cows come home. But for others who might question the "majority" view, I'm providing evidence that counters the theory of evolution. Aric has said I have posted no facts, when I've put a lot of effort into researching and answering the questions asked and have presented facts. It is NOT my problem if you all want to cling to a physical impossibility that has NEVER been demonstrated to be true. That is, non-living minerals can somehow join together, by chance (and I don't care what you say about it not being chance. Nobody is directing it, and it is chance) and form living matter. That is pseudo-science, and is highly relevant to this discussion, but the see no evil hear no evil speak no evil evolutionists on this thread refuse to even consider the facts and instead belittle me for "not understanding physics." Well fine. I suppose if physics says you can get something out of absolutely NOTHING (no allowance for particles, protons, chemicals, electrical current- NOTHING), If physics says that something impersonal can create something extremely complex and personal by itself with no outward manipulation, If physics says that a monkey can mate with a human and get a cross-species when this has NEVER been demonstrated to be true, If physics says all that, or evolutionary "science" says all that, then you are right, I don't understand it because it is claiming absolute straight-from-the-imagination impossible scenarios. Because I say that God caused life to exist, I'm considered closed-minded.

Whatever, guys. Keep you struggling and straining against biblical truth. You won't get anywhere, but at least you get an A for trying (sad, though, because although your peers may give you an A, in eternity your peers opinion matters zilch. To have lived a life clinging to a godless theory when evidence was presented to you to the contrary is very sad indeed).
1,349 posted on 08/19/2003 10:10:35 AM PDT by DittoJed2
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To: DittoJed2
suggest that most "biblical schlolars" don't take Genesis literally is just nuts!
I respectfully disagree. Only a small minority of (mostly) American bible literalist scholars view the Genesis account as anything more than myth.

suggest that there werent' creationists before the early 1600s is equally nuts.
I would probably agree with this, actually. But this hardly bolsters your viewpoint, since the Dark Ages were called the Dark Ages for a reason.

I'm providing evidence that counters the theory of evolution.
I won't pretend that I read every post, so perhaps I missed this revolutionary post. In the future, do please use the bold tag when you are posting Time's Man of the Year worthy posts.

That is, non-living minerals can somehow join together, by chance... and form living matter.
However, when you do make the Time's Man of the Year worthy ground breaking science re-defining post, do please try to avoid such glaring errors. For the record, "non-living minerals" have only "joined together" to form non-living mineral clusters, or more commonly, "rocks."

If physics says that a monkey can mate with a human and get a cross-species
It does not.

Because I say that God caused life to exist, I'm considered closed-minded.

Even though I don't believe in a diety, I would not say this of you. You are a christian and you believe in the Christian God. That's fine by me. In fact, several of the evolutionists here also believe in the same Christian God and also believe said Christian God created the heavens and the earth. They just happen to accept evolution, that's all. It's the Young Earth stuff and the bible literalism that people may have an issue with, because none of it jives with what we know, or in your case, what is readily available to you to learn.
1,354 posted on 08/19/2003 10:24:22 AM PDT by whattajoke
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To: DittoJed2
YOU are the one struggling and strangling against biblical truth.

I NEVER said there were NO creationists before the 1600's, I said there were no LITERALISTS before the 1600's.

Creationism was a given, god made the heaven and the earth, but the literal truth of genesis is a relatively new phenomenon.

Literalism is new, creationism is not, there is a HUGE difference!!

I thought you said you had a degree in this stuff?
1,357 posted on 08/19/2003 10:30:04 AM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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