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To: VadeRetro
Argued that because earlier he questioned my credentials.
1,158 posted on 08/18/2003 8:14:51 PM PDT by DittoJed2
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To: DittoJed2
The question is what evidence can be presented from either side of the argument. Can creationism predict and then test results? Can evolution?

From everything I have ever read, creationism is a faith-based philosophy. On the other hand, there are many tests and mountains of evidence to support evolution.

A great place to start (even if you don’t buy it at least you will be exposed to the concepts that are being presented) are these two sites:

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org

1,163 posted on 08/18/2003 8:25:38 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: DittoJed2
I never questioned YOUR credentials, I told you to go out and get a degree, study it first hand and then come back and tell me what you are now telling me.

In a word, YOU wouldn't be, once you had the education to actually understand the process, you would convince yourself that the columns are indeed true as the theory states.

Personal experience is always the best as far as I am concerned, but then again, I am one of these people that is interested in EVERYTHING. Rocketry, astronomy, geology, paleontology, etc, etc.

I take it upon myself to learn as much as I can from the ACTUAL scientists doing the work.

You are debating a number of them now, and don't even realize it. You are clueless as to whom you are speaking to on this thread, and I find it absolutely hilarious. I will admit, I don't know who or what a few of them are on this thread, but I know that they do KNOW what they are talking about.

If I went to the best university in the US, I would not run across people of this caliber to teach me this stuff

I am humbled by the fact that they are here and I get to learn from them and their experience, and the actual experiments etc that they are doing in the field.

It's fascinating, and I feel lucky to be included within such a group, because I am WAY outclassed by some of the people here, in education, experience etc, yet they teach me, are patient with me, correct me when I am wrong, etc. It has been invaluable to me, that is one of the reasons I am here.

To learn as much as I can from these people.

Again, I find it hilarious that you attempt to debate them, but I sure do learn a lot.

I guess there is a reason for everything.
1,169 posted on 08/18/2003 8:35:37 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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