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To: LexBaird
I didn't phrase my question around Lincoln for good reason, but you brought him into the fold. Your "beat the wife" example is moot; extra points for the colorful attempt.

Ironically, you state Lincoln didn't overstep the bounds of the USC, but you admit the suspension of the habeas corpus, incorrectly placing blame on the southern confederacy. Let me remind you the Congress of the CSA voted twice to suspend, and failed to grant approval with Davis' final request. The difference? Congress was called to a vote.

Don't be fooled into thinking it was an emergency and Congress could not be called to session; the WBTS did not happen overnight.

231 posted on 08/14/2003 12:48:47 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
I didn't phrase my question around Lincoln for good reason, but you brought him into the fold.

Ah. I thought we were discussing Lincoln in this thread, not all the other people who were President when the Union was in danger of breaking. So, which President did you have in mind?

233 posted on 08/14/2003 12:59:35 PM PDT by LexBaird (Views seen in this tag are closer than they appear.)
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To: stainlessbanner
I didn't phrase my question around Lincoln for good reason, but you brought him into the fold.

Ah. I thought we were discussing Lincoln in this thread, not all the other people who were President when the Union was in danger of breaking. So, which President did you have in mind?

Ironically, you state Lincoln didn't overstep the bounds of the USC, but you admit the suspension of the habeas corpus, incorrectly placing blame on the southern confederacy.

Well, they were in armed revolt, weren't they? Lincoln didn't just wake up one morning and decide to suspend the writ on a whim.

Let me remind you the Congress of the CSA voted twice to suspend, and failed to grant approval with Davis' final request. The difference? Congress was called to a vote.

The suspension of habeas corpus is an undelegated power in the Constitution. For further reading, see here: http://hometown.aol.com/gordonkwok/habeas_corpus.html

234 posted on 08/14/2003 1:24:29 PM PDT by LexBaird (Views seen in this tag are closer than they appear.)
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