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To: harpseal
Since the most that can be said against tariffs are they do not hurt the American economy
They do hurt. I work in the steel industry, but not steel manufacturing. Bush's 30% tariff on imported steel allowed the domestic producers, which we buy from, to raise their steel prices nearly 30%. That means our material costs go up roughly 30%. The products we make can be made from Steel, Aluminum, Magnesium, and a few other materials, with each having their advantages and disadvantages. Well, it turns out many of our customers are looking at other material options for their products. The other result is that purchasing steel components from other countries, like China, is now becoming more attractive because the tariff only applies to imported steel, not imported products containing steel.

sucsidy of airbus does hurt Americans by cutting both overseas sales and American sales the little bit of French German subsidy to American air travelers does nothing to make up for the harm it does the rest of us by limiting economic activity
I think this is a difficult statement to argue, either for or against. I stated it helps Americans who travel because it gives them a cheaper alternative at a foreign nation's expense, which it does. And I admitted that it does hurt Boeing. I don't know about the overall impact, it would be difficult to determine. I do think that it could be argued that they cannot continue forever to prop up a company that cannot, on its own, compete with Boeing. It's like pushing a child through school with a 4.0 telling them how great they are, only to watch them get a 600 on their SAT and flounder upon graduation. (I know, the analogy's not bulletproof, but it makes my point. Hope they remove those from SAT's)

281 posted on 08/12/2003 12:07:47 PM PDT by BMiles2112
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To: BMiles2112
They do hurt. I work in the steel industry, but not steel manufacturing. Bush's 30% tariff on imported steel allowed the domestic producers, which we buy from, to raise their steel prices nearly 30%. That means our material costs go up roughly 30%. The products we make can be made from Steel, Aluminum, Magnesium, and a few other materials, with each having their advantages and disadvantages. Well, it turns out many of our customers are looking at other material options for their products. The other result is that purchasing steel components from other countries, like China, is now becoming more attractive because the tariff only applies to imported steel, not imported products containing steel.

Okay first you do not have a right to buy subsidixed steel imports that is inflicting harm on the American economy and the fact is we need a steel industry for defense and the fact is becuase your company made a profit from people inflicting harm on America does nothing to justify the imports of steel. Lots of people have made profits from harming the uSA that does not make it right or good policy to encourage.

I have no objections to tariffs on imported products/componets using steel and have ardently argued for tariffs on Chinese products. I stand by my original statement that tariffs do not harm teh American economy. The fact that you had been benefiting temporarily from a foreign subbsidy to stellmakers meant to drive competition expecially american competition out of the market does not confer that right.

294 posted on 08/12/2003 1:01:52 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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