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Jittery U.S. Soldiers Kill 6 Iraqis
Yahoo ^ | Aug 10th 2003 | SCHEHEREZADE FARAMARZI

Posted on 08/10/2003 8:37:25 PM PDT by CanadianFella

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The night air hung like a hot wet blanket over the north Baghdad suburb of Slaykh. At 9 p.m., an electrical transformer blew up, plunging the neighborhood into darkness.

American soldiers, apparently fearing a bomb attack, went on alert. Within 45 minutes, six Iraqis trying to get home before the 11 p.m. curfew were shot and killed by U.S. forces.

Anwaar Kawaz, 36, lost her husband and three of four children. "We kept shouting, 'We're a family! Don't shoot!' But no one listened. They kept shooting," she told The Associated Press. She's expecting another child this month.

When asked about Friday's shootings, Lt. Col. Guy Shields, coalition military spokesman, said, "Our checkpoints are usually marked and our soldiers are trained and disciplined. I will check on that. That is serious."

Confronted by daily guerrilla attacks that have claimed 56 American lives since May 1, U.S. troops are on edge. Iraqis complain that many innocent people have died at surprise U.S. checkpoints thrown up on dark streets shortly before the curfew. Drivers hurrying home say they don't see the soldiers or hear their orders to stop.

The Kawaz family left the home of Anwaar's parents on Bilal Habashi Street at 9:15 p.m. for the 10-minute drive home. They had traveled only a half-mile when they reached the intersection where they said the American bullets took their terrible toll.

A few yards in front of them, two soldiers standing near two Humvees were shooting at the family's white Volkswagen, she said. Two other soldiers near a Humvee to the right of the car also fired, she said.

Witnesses told the AP one of the soldiers fell to the ground screaming in pain, apparently a victim of friendly fire.

"They killed us. There was no signal. Nothing at all. We didn't see anything but armored cars," Anwaar said Sunday, two days after the confrontation.

"Our headlights were on. He (her husband) didn't have time to put his foot on the brake. They kept shooting. He was shot in the forehead. I was still sitting next to him. I got out of the car to get help. I was shouting, 'Help me! Help me!' No one came."

Witnesses said her husband, Adel Kawaz, survived for at least an hour, still sitting in the car after being hit in the head and back.

Ibrahim Arslan, whose house is on the corner where the Kawaz car came under fire, said Kawaz cried out for help.

Arslan said he and a neighbor tried to remove the wounded Kawaz from the car, but the door was jammed. Then they fled when automatic rifle fire again split the air.

"The next day we heard he had died," Arslan said.

Ali Taha, who lives across the street, said Haydar Kawaz, 18, was sitting up in the back of the car with a bullet wound in his head. His sister, 17-year-old Olaa, slumped dead into his arms.

When the shooting stopped and the American soldiers were gone, Taha said, he and other neighbors ventured out about 11 p.m. and took the bodies of the brother and sister from the car, placed them on the pavement and covered them with a sheet.

The Americans had taken the bodies of Adel, the husband, and another child, 8-year-old Mirvet. Two days later, the family still did not know where the bodies were taken.

A fourth child, a 13-year-old Hadeel, survived.

"I was sitting in the middle, between my brother Haydar and sister Olaa," Hadeel said, her head bandaged.

"I felt blood coming down my head. I tried to drag myself out of the car. An American pulled me out. I kept telling them that my father and my brother were in the car. There was a translator with them.

"My father was shouting, 'We are still alive!' but no went to help him.

"The Americans told me to go with them but I was afraid they would hurt me. I didn't trust them. So I ran to my grandparents' house," Hadeel said. She told the story sitting in her grandparents' home, crying quietly, surrounded by family.

Lt. Sean McLaughlin, stationed at a base near Slaykh, could only express sympathy, although he said his unit was not involved.

"No one feels worse than us. We want to build a safe Iraq (news - web sites) for the Iraqis. It's a difficult situation here," McLaughlin said.

A few blocks from where the car was shot up, 19-year-old Sayf Ali was shot and killed as he drove home with a cousin and a friend. He, too, didn't see the American checkpoint, survivors in the car said. Soldiers opened fire on the blue Opel station wagon, which kept moving after Ali was shot. The cousin and the friend jumped out. Soldiers kept firing until the car caught fire incinerating Ali's body, according to one of the witnesses, Arslan.

About the same time nearby, Ali Salman, 31, was driving home, also unaware of the unannounced American checkpoints. He apparently didn't see the soldiers either and was killed.

Ghaleb Laftah, 24, who was sitting in the back of Salman's Honda, and Wisam Sabri, sitting in the front passenger seat, were wounded.

"There was no light. We didn't see the Americans," said Laftah, limping from a leg injury as he walked to Salman's wake that was being held under a tent on Bilal Habashi Street.

"We didn't hurt anyone. We didn't break the law," Laftah said, speaking with difficulty because of four broken teeth from the shooting.

"My son, ... the Americans killed him," said Salman's father, Hikmat, who broke down in sobs. "He was on his way home and was caught up in the shooting. He was afraid, got out of the car and they still shot him. He was frightened, then he died. I only have one (son)," he said.

Family members were also holding a wake for Sayf Ali. The men sat under a tent outside the house and the women were indoors, according to Iraqi tradition.

Sabah Azawmi, an uncle and a Sunni Muslim, said his tribe would seek revenge on the Americans.

"They set fire to the car while he was inside," said Azawmi.

"They are terrified of the Iraqis. If they weren't afraid, they wouldn't behave this way," he said.

But Hikmat Salman, Ali Salman's father and a Shiite Muslim, said he was not interested in revenge. He said he would leave that to God.

The Kawaz family, also Shiites, also said they would leave revenge to God.

"I wish Saddam (Hussein) would return and kill all Americans," Anwaar Kawaz said. Under Saddam, "we used to go out at one in the morning. We went out at 9 now and they killed us.

"I want to drink Bush's blood. They are all criminals," she said, beating her chest.


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Morale among troops is already low. You alienate the natives and you've got yourself another Vietnam.
1 posted on 08/10/2003 8:37:25 PM PDT by CanadianFella
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To: CanadianFella
BAGHDAD, Iraq - The night air hung like a hot wet blanket over the north Baghdad suburb of Slaykh. At 9 p.m., an electrical transformer blew up, plunging the neighborhood into darkness.

Miss Sheherezade seems to have gone to the Bulwer-Lytton School of Prose

2 posted on 08/10/2003 8:39:27 PM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: CanadianFella
Can we say "Propaganda?"
3 posted on 08/10/2003 8:40:21 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: CanadianFella
There is a whole lot of commentary and description of this "incident" from the Iraqi perspective. And hardly more than one sentence from the American side.

Sense any agenda here?

Prairie
4 posted on 08/10/2003 8:42:19 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Middle East terrorists to the world: " We don't want no STINKING PEACE!!")
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Morale among troops is already low. You alienate the natives and you've got yourself another Vietnam.

So let's help lower it some more by blaming them huh?

People that use women and children to deliver ordnance should expect accidents to happen.

5 posted on 08/10/2003 8:45:02 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: prairiebreeze
Sense any agenda here?

Agenda or no, six Iraqis are still dead, and the natives are restless.

6 posted on 08/10/2003 8:45:03 PM PDT by CanadianFella
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The night air hung like a hot wet blanket...

It was a sultry and humid night....

8 posted on 08/10/2003 8:47:04 PM PDT by Consort
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The natives will be restless until the Soldiers aren't restless anymore. At some point the natives have to start standing up against those among their own that are ENDANGERING THEM.


9 posted on 08/10/2003 8:49:03 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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You got that right. Jitters is no excuse for blowing innocent people away. You signed up for the military, take military lumps. What would these jittery soldiers do in WW2 or a Vietnamese POW tiger cage? Sheesh...
10 posted on 08/10/2003 8:49:16 PM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: jeepit
How is this Viet Nam?You sound like Chris Matthews on Hardball.
11 posted on 08/10/2003 8:49:44 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: CanadianFella
The writer is not without bias.
12 posted on 08/10/2003 8:50:59 PM PDT by MEG33
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And without hearing the Centcom's side of the story, I for one, won't rush to judgement that the coalition acted irresponsibly. The slant that AP gives this story is too convenient for my palate. Better to wait for all the details to come out....

Prairie
13 posted on 08/10/2003 8:51:06 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Middle East terrorists to the world: " We don't want no STINKING PEACE!!")
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Can we say Vietnam? This will be Bush's downfall.

You know, my former boss is working in Iraq right now. I asked him about the Vietnam comparisons. He said it was "the stupidest [bleeping] thing I've ever heard. The only thing in common with Vietnam is that the thugs who want power are trying to kill American troops. They have no safe haven, they have no superpower support, they have no support from the population at large, they're nothing like the Cong and nothing like the NVA".

Oh, and this guy was wounded at Khe Sanh. He wasn't just shooting from the hip, he has had plenty of experience in both situations.

14 posted on 08/10/2003 8:52:04 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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BS, BS, BS. The Iraqi's know the rules of engagement better than the soldiers. You don't keep approaching a checkpoint when told to stop.

If you think otherwise, try it at the WH, Pentagon, a airport during an alert, your neighborhood cop manning a checkpoint during a all points bulletin for a murdering perp.
15 posted on 08/10/2003 8:52:49 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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you were saying?
16 posted on 08/10/2003 8:54:06 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: CanadianFella
and the natives are restless

How do you think our troops feel?

Calm - ? Yes, what happened was tragic.

As long as the natives are "restless", this will continue.

LVM

17 posted on 08/10/2003 8:56:26 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Those that live by the sword get shot by those that don't.)
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To: Numbers Guy
Great response.
18 posted on 08/10/2003 8:57:11 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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Can we say Vietnam? This will be Bush's downfall.

So, Bush was there pulling the trigger?

19 posted on 08/10/2003 8:57:37 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: CanadianFella
"It was a dark & stormy night" Oops, what was I thinking..... this is a news report.
20 posted on 08/10/2003 8:58:48 PM PDT by Ditter
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