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I'm not going to hash over your whole post again this time. But if I was wrong about you, you're doubly wrong about me. Anyway, I'm sure we'll find common ground on some other issue, just not this one, at least not for now.

One thing I have to clarify is that I never said anything about disliking anyone on the basis of race or (legal) immigration status. You seem to have confused my wish to have our immigration laws become stricter and be enforced with racism. That's wrong, but there's no way I can demonstrate that for you.

I think the real difference between us is that you believe America has boundless wealth and strength, and I believe no matter how great it is, this land and its current people (no matter what race they are) needs to be conserved and defended like a precious commodity. It's easy to get overconfident when your country seems to be riding on the top of the world.

One thing I have to clarify is that I never said anything about disliking anyone on the basis of race or (legal) immigration status.

If I am guilty of reading this paragraph wrong then my appologies...

I personally know immigrants from all of the groups I cited, and right now I'm annoyed by most of them for separate reasons. You don't seem to know as wide a range of immigrants as I do. I didn't say there weren't exceptions. And I didn't say even that most of them have the negative characteristics that I cited. But it doesn't take that many before there is real trouble. And there is.

I believe the characteristics you refer to are in post 450 they are:

They come here for a handout
H1B visa holders detest American foreign policy.
Green card holders think that President Bush is stupid.
Unskilled Latino workers don't think they ever need to learn English.
They are Islamic or follow some other bizarre cult-like religion and have no intention of giving up their backward, ethnocentric belief systems

It seems to me that you are talking about race and legal immigration since you reference Latinos, H1B visa's, and green cards. Perhaps you can help he to overcome my confusion.

I think the real difference between us is that you believe America has boundless wealth and strength, and I believe no matter how great it is, this land and its current people (no matter what race they are) needs to be conserved and defended like a precious commodity. It's easy to get overconfident when your country seems to be riding on the top of the world.

I think you have summed up our 2 opposing philosophies perfectly. I believe what makes America great is her freedom, and her people. It is our freedom that allows new innovations and new marketable products. I'm not worried about cheap labor, because I won't work that cheaply. I love cheap manufactured goods made in China...especially the ones that return pennies for tons of pollution. The future is in information and services not manufactured goods. What services? What information? I don't know but think about this... Karl Rove probably got paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for advice(information) the 2000 campaign employed commercial creators (services) and the campaigns raised $2.25 billion raised by federal candidates.

Don't like politics? Lets try sports I've got 2 dozen sports channels on digital cable. Satellite owners have even more and when very high bandwidth internet becomes standard the sources for sports entertainment and information will be too numerous to count. Besides the shows think about the hats, jerseys, magazines, fantasy teams, trading cards.

Let China make the trading cards as long as American truckers ship them, American stores sell them, and American governments tax them.

America is only limited by Americans with no vision. That is not Dubya.