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To: Tancredo Fan
I'm very sad to say it but, most people sucking at the teat of government are AMERICANS who get SS, unemployment, welfare, Medicare/Medicaid, grants, government home and business loans at ridiculous rates, etcetera etcetera ad nuseum. I don’t want to argue the relative advantages or disadvantages of these programs. I’m just making a point. Illegals get very little of this. One mexican hating Freeper shockingly told me Illegals cost Medicare $2 billion. I am shocked that Americans will pay $159 billion to the federal government and $71 billion dollars to the States this year for Medicaid alone. I’m really less worried about the $2 billion and more worried about the other $278 billion. Add in SS, unemployment, government grants, childcare tax credits, farm subsidies, etcetera…we are all getting a slice of everybody else’s tax dollars. Americans are a huge drain on our economy, and as history shows, illegals make for a great scapegoat in hard economic times. We have a $2.2 trillion federal budget, and a $10 trillion economy. $2 billion looks like a booger in comparison.

It's always interesting to meet up with some slave-driving exploiter of criminals every once in a while.

I like to think of my self as someone who has empathy for 2 moms and their children attempting to escape a life of poverty. I know you believe that Dubya, and myself are somehow making a buck off the illegal immigrants, but in fact, we just have hearts and souls. I will admit the Dubya may be thinking about the political consequences of gunning down Mexican families as they cross the border. I know if the TV stations air footage of that you will vote for Dubya but most humans will not.

Those impoverished Mexicans do the jobs Americans refuse to do like clean cars and toilets, all while smiling and happy for the chance to live in a country where their wife won't be raped and killed by a crooked cop. Pedro can’t speak English he isn’t asking for a government bailout of Chrysler. They aren’t taking my job and I don’t employ illegals. If you are a disaffected janitor you have my sympathies, but even if they do build a 20 foot steel fence around the "Land of the Free," Dubya is still not gonna force businesses to pay $15 an hour for grocery store baggers no matter how loudly you scream "Seig Heil!"

There were no INS agents at Plymouth Rock.

227 posted on 08/07/2003 11:16:33 PM PDT by Once-Ler (This Bushbot sez "I vote Dubya")
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To: Once-Ler
Your entire rant looks like it was produced by the National Council of La Raza or that bunch of Ford Foundation lackeys at MALDEF. Sickening, really.
324 posted on 08/08/2003 7:19:47 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan (Stop the invasion. Put the military on the borders, round up illegals, and tell Fox to shove off.)
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To: Once-Ler
I like to think of my self as someone who has empathy for 2 moms and their children attempting to escape a life of poverty.

You know, if you send them money instead of hiring them up here, their money will go a lot further and you will still have the satisfaction of having aided the poor. Similarly, you could go Mexico and support their economy by spending money there.

The point is, they don't have to be here for you to help them.

352 posted on 08/08/2003 12:15:21 PM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: Once-Ler
There were no INS agents at Plymouth Rock.

As I recall, there was no U.S. border either, due mainly to the fact that there was no United States at the time.

353 posted on 08/08/2003 12:17:09 PM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: Once-Ler
Good post! I notice is wasn't rebutted.
431 posted on 08/08/2003 9:53:41 PM PDT by PRND21
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