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To: archy
You're correct. I must have seen something that wasn't marked correctly. So I need your help. Since I didn't see a Destroyer, did I see a jungle carbine reworked to .308?

It seems to me that about five years ago, the gunshows in Dallas were selling Enfields that looked like the Jungle Carbine in .308. I was interested at the time but the short barrel bothered me since it was a .308. I know about muzzle blasts from shorties.

299 posted on 08/08/2003 5:42:26 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
You're correct. I must have seen something that wasn't marked correctly. So I need your help. Since I didn't see a Destroyer, did I see a jungle carbine reworked to .308? M

It seems to me that about five years ago, the gunshows in Dallas were selling Enfields that looked like the Jungle Carbine in .308. I was interested at the time but the short barrel bothered me since it was a .308. I know about muzzle blasts from shorties.

Yep, though the original funnel-type flashhider of the #5 Enfield *Jungle Carbine* had no compensator slots cut in it and included an attachment for a bayonet. The short barrel is less of a problem than you might think in the original .303 chambering, which is not surprisingly the better way to go with an Enfield, and problems with muzzle blast can be cured by reloading for the .303 with the 125-grain .311-.312 bullets meant for the AK47; those little hollowpoints that don't expand at the velocities reachable from an AKs 16-inch barrel are a lot more impressive when pushed a bit faster from an Enfield...or Mosin Nagant. Happily, the *real* original #5 carbines were based on the superb #4 Enfield action and barrel, and the adjustable iron sights meant for a #4 Enfield, or a scope mount for one [which can be home-built for under $10.00] can be easily used on the #5 carbine as well.

In the early 1950s when it looked like the EM-2 rifle would be adopted and issued as the Service Rifle Number Nine, it was proposed that second-line troops be equipped with the leftover WWII Number Four rifles, rebuilt to the *Jungle Carbine* configuration. Happily that did not come about, and Nuimber Fours are still available in fine condition for around $100 each, a swell bargain. And those after a shorty carbine can go for one of the Number Five carbines, my old companion in bear country when I wasn't packing a shotgun with slugs.

-archy-/-

307 posted on 08/09/2003 7:42:08 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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