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Found something interesting...my search for an inexpensive, robust, all-around rifle might be over...If I give up a semiauto option, that is...

AIM HERE

What do you guys know about his one?

It looks like a chromed Destroyer.

The Destroyers were rechambered Enfields in .308 with the funnel flashhider.

As long as it doesn't cost too much. If it does, it might be necessary to put one together yourself.

I couldn't say for sure...but I'm thinking it's a British Enfield with a facelift. Can't argue with the rifle that made the British Empire.

What do you guys know about his one?

A reworked Indian version of the venerable British Short Model Lee Enfield, but rechambered to accept the rimless 7,62 NATO/ .308 Winchester cartridge.

The stone-reliable ejection of the SMLE with the rimmed .308 becomes a bit more iffy with the rimless .308, due in part to the wide variation of case base diameters and rim thicknesses; 7,62 has been produced by a lot of different countries to a lot of differing specifications.

If you do go that route, I urge you to experiment carefully as to what varieties of ammo work well through the Enfield action- I prefer the later #4 myself, though my kid favours the late SMLE in the original .303 British chambering, about equal ballistically to the .308 in any event- particularly as to reliable ejection. THat adjustment is critical on the reworked .308s, and note that when the British rebarrelled their wartime #4 snipers' rifles to the 7,62 NATO, they rearranged the ejector much differently from the Indian 2A1 pattern.

The synthetic stocks and satin nickel finish are okay if you like that sort of thing; I'm more a wood and Parkerizing or Sunkorite fan meself.

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As the length of pull is only about 13.25, this post WWII Indian Ishapore(sp?) 2A (SMLE No.1 MkIII) is designed for NATO 7.62x51. Modern steel, circa ~early '60's. It ought to be a good, budget full caliber kids'/ladies' training rifle.

They also have a converted .45-70. Trigger pull is reportedly heavy, but I love the slick, rear lockup actions and that slightly quirky English look and feel.

Accuracy must not be a passion with these, hearing protection should be.

I'm thinking of one in .308 as Gibbs (e-nickeled) should last for generations with minimal storage care AND their 10 up to 12 round mags potentially helpful when the $1,000+ black AWB rifles are hunted down like Branch Davidians.

As a cabin rifle, I like the SMLE with its 25" barrel and usually split/chipped 4 piece full stock system. Real beaters beaten, military surplus SMLEs do looks like cabin logs. Very popular in Canada, .303s.

If the butt stock were only available for a 14" LOP for us American sized men...even if we do wear Filson wool.

The UK's shopkeeper and 3rd World population in winter wools dictated shorter butt stocks, in 3 normal lengths, plus XL "Canadian" length was longest and rare. There were "Canadian" LOP stocks, but they are less dropped for the milder .303, but that concern is for wusses.

I personally would like to see the results of Pakistan's "tribal areas' high altitude ~1 kilometer "tests" and Iraqi border control using M-14s in 6.5x51 with a 1:8 twist for 140 gr. VLD bullets. Kills and gut shots could be posted on the www.

Perhaps the new Win. .223 WSSM (Super Short Magnum), .243 WSSM, or the obvious coming wildcat 6.5 WSSM. We need to provide our better trained riflemen the best arms in the world, then we train our troops better, THEN we grizzled Minutemen can buy our own BLACK RIFLES making America the leading self-defense free people on earth, enemies foreign and domestic.

If 30 cal. is a must, AR10s in .300 RemShortUltraMag should make for interesting serious Rifleman field trials. Some enemy will have body armour, but all should feel gut shot.

May God Bless our Grunts and Operators.

If our ratified Constitutional Republic is to survive American fascists' DNC-Politburo utopia amid this indefinite declared islamist terror war, we must lead in reviving the Minuteman across American society. We practice, aka "regulate", and we train others, younger women and kids whenever possible, every year several more. Adequately armed we shall be, before and after the likes of the DNC-Politburo's Einsatzgruppenfuehrers in Congress and Courts are killed by koranist jihadies.

Do the likes of the Congressional and judicial liberals think that they and their own children would not be subject to the Sharia?

"Zero Tolerance" policies are poisoning our children's chance of following in their Daddy's footsteps; bully bureaucrats are cowing kids and parents, from school to work and travel. We're being disarmed and made to feel ashamed over it.

I have had one conversation with a dogmatic principal over whether she would step between other disarmed adults and children in her charge and a terrorist's aimed gun barrel. I have never seen such a shameful display of shameful B.S. And that conversation was only at a social gathering.

I believe that we all should have several "loaners" on hand when SHTF. Handguns with holsters and rifles and shotguns for those nekkid but willing.

These rather overnamed modified Ishapore 2A No.1 MkIII look adequate at ~$400 with four extra magazines. We should always have at least 5 magazines per arm.

This may be a "trick or treat" weekend.