To: biblewonk
You are mistaken in your assertion that there are no sound natural arguments against sodomy beyond its sinfulness. In a previous post on this thread (Post 13), a factually based, logically sound argument against homosexual behavior was established using only observed, or naturally resultant, impacts of homosexual behavior (to use your term, sodomy). I suggest you review it. Additionally, you may wish to consult some references on the topic of Natural Law.
However, beyond the argument in Post 13, the very use of your term natural provides the greatest counter to your assertion. Consider that in every species of higher order animal on the earth, the natural use of genitalia, beyond liquid, body waste elimination, is procreation and not homosexual behavior. This statement is true even for those heathen, most of whom, it was noted in earlier posts (e.g., Post 131), have a problem with sodomy, in any case.
You are even more mistaken in your other assertion that it's [having a problem with, or dislik-ing, homosexual behavior] no different than disliking blacks... Being black is the result of an immutable, and inborn characteristic, over which the individual has no control, i.e., no one can, by a simple act of will, choose not to be black. Sodomy (to use your term) is a behavior that is completely subject to an individuals will (assuming the absence of mental illness), i.e., no free, mentally healthy individual is forced to participate in the activity. Just as no free, mentally healthy adult is forced to perpetrate bigamy or prostitution, no free, mentally healthy adult is forced perpetrate sodomy.
Unless you are equating sodomy to a religion, then your assertion that disliking it is no differ-ent than disliking Jews is equally flawed. There is no major religion (or minor one, to my knowledge) that has the practice of sodomy as a part of its tenants. In fact, as was noted in earlier posts on this thread, every major religion either discourages the practice of sodomy or prohibits it, outright.
The only portion of your assertion that may have any validity is that disliking sodomites is the equivalent of disliking fat people. In that both situations involve a voluntary behavior, there are some grounds for your comparison. However, consider that by merely by voluntarily over-eating, fat people do not spread HIV/AIDS or cause any of the societal degradations noted in Post 131 and others.
Your argument that sodomy is a major league sin before God stands. However, your impli-cation that it is the only valid argument against sodomy fails. Please reconsider your position and include the fact that there are a number of valid reasons to object to homosexual behavior in addition to religious ones.
To: Lucky Dog
Sorry but my position still stands. Post 13 and the majority of the "arguments" seem to imply that sex is for reproduction. Even from the bible it is clear that sex is mostly recreational. Regarding health, a parallel example can be made to hetero sex or even to going to church with all of those snotty nosed kids there.
On the other hand the natural man, the evolutionist, has many arguments in favor of sodomy, particularly over population. The entire Godless world is very concerned about the depletion of natural resources and the over population problem. They tout sodomy as a perfect solution.
171 posted on
08/20/2003 8:40:45 AM PDT by
biblewonk
(Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
To: Lucky Dog
Fat people spread heart disease. From one artery to the next. They also lead to bad backs for firemen.
On the other hand, larger chairs in movie theatres benefit us all. And those little seat belt extension thingys can be darned useful in an aircraft hijacking.
179 posted on
08/20/2003 11:56:33 PM PDT by
donmeaker
(Bigamy is one wife too many. So is monogamy.)
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