What is the point of the question? It has nothing to do with either abortion or rights?
You responded: Ah, but see that is the very point that the abortionist's argument rests on.
So what? It is wrong.
Tell you what. You are not going to prevent one abortion by arguing with those who believe abortion is just fine. If you really want to reduce abortions, you have to do something else altogether, and more government is going to have the opposite effect.
Abortion, as well as most other irresponsible behavior increases as the number of individuals who see no reason why they need to be responsible for their choices and actions increases. This is even true for those who oppose abortion. As soon as they get the government to take a position against abortion, passing laws that will put lots of people in jail if they have anything to do with it, those who are opposed to abortion will feel their job is over. The government will take care of it, just like it takes care of our kids education, our retirement, our health care, and even our food, clothing, and shelter if we refuse to work and earn our own way.
Hank
There are things we can do