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Leaving Central NY was a popular decision
© 2003 The Post-Standard. ^ | August 06, 2003 | By James T. Mulder

Posted on 08/06/2003 5:26:30 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

People moved out of Central New York at the third-highest rate in the nation between 1995 and 2000, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

People leaving Onondaga, Madison, Oswego and Cayuga counties outnumbered those moving in by 31,851 during the five-year period. That represents 4.6 percent of the region's population over age 5. Only two other major metropolitan areas - Honolulu and El Paso, Texas - lost larger percentages of their populations to migration.

Those are some of the findings contained in a bureau report analyzing the nation's migration patterns. The report, released today, is based on the 2000 Census, which asked residents for the first time if they had moved during the previous five years.

People poured out of the Northeast at a greater rate than any other part of the country. New York saw the biggest exodus, losing 874,248 between 1995 and 2000. The South gained more people through migration. Florida, Georgia and North Carolina were top destinations for people on the move.

The report's findings closely mirror trends reported in previous migration studies based on Internal Revenue Service statistics that track the movement of taxpayers. Today's numbers are based on the households that responded to the Census 2000 long form. Nationally, about one out of every six housing units was included in this sample.

"New York state has been sending people to the rest of the country for at least three decades and the principal reason is the stagnation of the economy, especially in Upstate New York," said John Logan, a SUNY Albany professor who is an expert on migration.

The exodus of native New Yorkers in the New York City area is being offset by an influx of immigrants, Logan said.

That's not happening Upstate, according to Logan.

"On the whole, Upstate has been unsuccessful in attracting immigration from the Caribbean or Latin America or Asia," he said. "The best hope for Upstate New York is to become more attractive to immigrants so it can replace the native population that is leaving."

Only 9,118 of the people who moved into Central New York between 1995 and 2000 arrived from another country. They represent 1.33 percent of the population over age 5. Only 12 of the nation's 79 biggest metro areas had smaller influxes of immigrants. In the New York City area, by comparison, recent immigrants made up nearly 5 percent of the population.

In 2000, the region had a total population of 732,117, of whom 685,852 were over age 5.

Recent migration statistics from the IRS suggest the flow of people out of Central New York lessened considerably in 2002. Those numbers showed the annual net loss of people from migration fell to 1,800 last year, down from a peak of 8,000 in 1997.

"The hemorrhaging has slowed," said William Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C. "Maybe people decided to stay put since the economy wasn't heating up in other places that had been attracting people away."

Frey said most people move for job opportunities. "The young people . . . tend to go where the action is, and the Southeast is where the employment action has been," he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bluezone; exodus; migration; redzone; stagnation; trends
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To: bc2

41 posted on 08/06/2003 7:54:37 AM PDT by RIGHT IN SEATTLE
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To: bc2
How are ya Benson?

Call (ping) me when you get back..I'm leaving right now for Albany : )
42 posted on 08/06/2003 7:56:05 AM PDT by The Mayor (Psalms 118:8 (NKJV) -- "It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.")
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To: Revelation 911
And how's Corning been for you folks in that area?
43 posted on 08/06/2003 8:04:37 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: RIGHT IN SEATTLE
You just gave me a stomach ache!

Count your blessings it's only a stomach ache!!!
Usually, Matt's Beer gave me the aches; Genny declared war on all my innards.
44 posted on 08/06/2003 8:05:07 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I have a visit to make to Ithaca in October. Hopefully that will end my need to come there, and if so, I will never voluntarily set foot in that town again.
45 posted on 08/06/2003 8:13:04 AM PDT by Grammy
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To: bc2
mmmmmm zweigels
46 posted on 08/06/2003 8:28:57 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Pharmboy
And how's Corning been for you folks in that area?

Up and down - they had opened a manufacturing plant here in Roch a year or two ago and promptly closed it after stealing a good number of our employees

They'd be wise to pull up roots and relocate - thier only tie to Rochester and Corning itself is historical - why let that dictate thier business when taxes etc are so high? - Theyve clearly proven they have the technology - Say goodbye to Corning and leave the museum for the touristas

47 posted on 08/06/2003 8:32:32 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911; Pharmboy
I have a feeling that, as long as RINO Amo Houghton wants to keep getting re-elected in Upstate NY, Corning will still have a presence.

If Amo retires....I figure they're out of here ten years tops.
48 posted on 08/06/2003 8:43:25 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Phantom Lord
NC is a very gun friendly state.

Of course, New York is not.

Someday, somebody wanting to do a doctoral thesis will take all the pro and anti-gun states and correlate them to their liveablity for the average person and business just trying to make a living and live in peace.

It's obvious which states will come out on top.

49 posted on 08/06/2003 8:45:33 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: Revelation 911; The Mayor; RnMomof7; Weatherman123
we should have an "Upstate FReeper Picnic" at Letchworth or somewhere in the Finger Lakes, for those folks just east of Syracuse. What do ya'll think? Worth discussing further?
50 posted on 08/06/2003 8:48:13 AM PDT by bc2 (http://www.thinkforyourself.us)
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To: The Mayor
I left last year and went to Virginia. There is so much construction work going on, I would have stayed cept I didn't want to raise my kids in that racist atmosphere.

Just curious - where were you in VA? I live in central Virginia (Louisa Co.) - God's country and home to fine, fine people of all types.
51 posted on 08/06/2003 8:50:14 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (where is Count Petofi when we need him most?)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"New York state has been sending people to the rest of the country for at least three decades and the principal reason is the stagnation of the economy, especially in Upstate New York,"

Stagnation caused by Liberals and Rinos because conservatives simply don't get elected in "moderate" New England states. Add to that the crappy winters and you don't need to be a rocket scientist to predict the exodus.

52 posted on 08/06/2003 8:51:31 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: bc2; Revelation 911; The Mayor; Weatherman123
we should have an "Upstate FReeper Picnic" at Letchworth or somewhere in the Finger Lakes, for those folks just east of Syracuse. What do ya'll think? Worth discussing further?

Of course we are all Western NYers not "central" . But as you know we have exactly the same issues in Erie and Monroe counties.

Four of my seven kids are gone , I may soon follow .(like the mayor)

I think a picnic is a great idea for the central/Western NY freepers..our chapter has gone and my good friend weatherman has become a stranger:>)

Funny I still love NY, I just hate what it has become.

BTW Buffalo is now in the hands of a control board. The Democrats have driven it into bankruptcy , and the sheeple here will continue to vote for them.

hey 123 I am still looking for the GOP meeting..maybe in the fall

53 posted on 08/06/2003 9:11:52 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Businesses are voting with their feet...
People are voting with their wallets...

The result is the same. Just as soon as I can afford it, I'M OUTTA HERE TOO


54 posted on 08/06/2003 9:14:24 AM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: b4its2late
and Binghamton
55 posted on 08/06/2003 9:15:20 AM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: RnMomof7; Revelation 911; The Mayor; Weatherman123
well, if anyone else thinks the WNY FReeper picnic sounds like something they want to discuss more, let's hear from ya!


RNMom, I might be in Buffalo sometime this fall, if so should I send you a note ahead of time?
56 posted on 08/06/2003 11:01:35 AM PDT by bc2 (http://www.thinkforyourself.us)
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To: bc2
RNMom, I might be in Buffalo sometime this fall, if so should I send you a note ahead of time?

Sure the wings are on us..

57 posted on 08/06/2003 11:29:37 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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