If you folks want to get together when RIS returns, I can arrange a Zweigel's party!
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Posted on 08/06/2003 5:26:30 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
People moved out of Central New York at the third-highest rate in the nation between 1995 and 2000, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.
People leaving Onondaga, Madison, Oswego and Cayuga counties outnumbered those moving in by 31,851 during the five-year period. That represents 4.6 percent of the region's population over age 5. Only two other major metropolitan areas - Honolulu and El Paso, Texas - lost larger percentages of their populations to migration.
Those are some of the findings contained in a bureau report analyzing the nation's migration patterns. The report, released today, is based on the 2000 Census, which asked residents for the first time if they had moved during the previous five years.
People poured out of the Northeast at a greater rate than any other part of the country. New York saw the biggest exodus, losing 874,248 between 1995 and 2000. The South gained more people through migration. Florida, Georgia and North Carolina were top destinations for people on the move.
The report's findings closely mirror trends reported in previous migration studies based on Internal Revenue Service statistics that track the movement of taxpayers. Today's numbers are based on the households that responded to the Census 2000 long form. Nationally, about one out of every six housing units was included in this sample.
"New York state has been sending people to the rest of the country for at least three decades and the principal reason is the stagnation of the economy, especially in Upstate New York," said John Logan, a SUNY Albany professor who is an expert on migration.
The exodus of native New Yorkers in the New York City area is being offset by an influx of immigrants, Logan said.
That's not happening Upstate, according to Logan.
"On the whole, Upstate has been unsuccessful in attracting immigration from the Caribbean or Latin America or Asia," he said. "The best hope for Upstate New York is to become more attractive to immigrants so it can replace the native population that is leaving."
Only 9,118 of the people who moved into Central New York between 1995 and 2000 arrived from another country. They represent 1.33 percent of the population over age 5. Only 12 of the nation's 79 biggest metro areas had smaller influxes of immigrants. In the New York City area, by comparison, recent immigrants made up nearly 5 percent of the population.
In 2000, the region had a total population of 732,117, of whom 685,852 were over age 5.
Recent migration statistics from the IRS suggest the flow of people out of Central New York lessened considerably in 2002. Those numbers showed the annual net loss of people from migration fell to 1,800 last year, down from a peak of 8,000 in 1997.
"The hemorrhaging has slowed," said William Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C. "Maybe people decided to stay put since the economy wasn't heating up in other places that had been attracting people away."
Frey said most people move for job opportunities. "The young people . . . tend to go where the action is, and the Southeast is where the employment action has been," he said.
Not to mention Endicott NY, which towns built by Endicott Johnson shoes early in the century then made financially secure and attractive by IBM for the next 50 years. Then IBM packed it in and moved everything out. Many thousands were moved to NC. Including nearly my entire family.
Welcome to Pittsburgh's nightmare! PA is also an extemely business unfriendly state, and 2 terms of Tom Ridge who had a Republican legislature did nothing to change it.
IBM had a small presence here in Pittsburgh, of which my wife was a part. Last summer they layed off over 1/2 of their people here, including my wife, and moved many jobs to -- drumroll please -- North Carolina!
We were planning on having my wife stay home with our son anyway, so it forced the issue plus the unemployment $$$ came in handy.
She should have tried to get a transfer. It's great down here.
Raise taxes on property owners, instute a 25% county income tax, and tax businesses on their gross rather than their net. Then take some of that money, hire a slew of additional county apparatchicks and use them to staff outreach programs that give the best welfare benefits in the world to worthless lazy scum. Use the rest of the money to pay the welfare benefits to the people who won't work , but will vote democratic, and who support "green" initiatives.
Oh I forgot - that's what the majority of New Yorkers already want to do. I used to think that if you were giving the East coast an enema you'd insert the tube in Baltimore. Now I'm sure NYC would be the appropriate spot
NO! That is the worse thing that can happen.
They keep loading us up with foreigners who cannot find jobs. We can't even find jobs.
They have dumped thousands of Bosnians, Russians and now Bantu's from somewhere in Africa in one city in NYS.
Leave us alone.
Born and raised in Rochester here, but have lived between Rome & Utica for the past 30 years. We're Zweigle Hots fans too. I usually have to go back to Rochester to get them since they don't even carry them at the Wegman's in Syracuse anymore. The one thing I miss about Rochester is Don & Bob's. They used to serve Zweigle's skinless hotdogs there.They tore the Don & Bob's Restaurant on Monroe Avenue down a few years ago. Fortunately I have a recipe for their hot sauce if anyone is interested. I'd be more than happy to send it to you if you Freep mail me.
Talk about "out of the frying pan..."
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oops. never mind.
If you folks want to get together when RIS returns, I can arrange a Zweigel's party!
regards...
You just gave me a stomach ache!
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