Leaving Central NY was a popular decision

© 2003 The Post-Standard. ^ | August 06, 2003 | By James T. Mulder

[Phantom Lord]

Both of which are in Monroe County (Western NY) - instead think IBM - their downsizing had a huge impact in the Elmira NY area

Not to mention Endicott NY, which towns built by Endicott Johnson shoes early in the century then made financially secure and attractive by IBM for the next 50 years. Then IBM packed it in and moved everything out. Many thousands were moved to NC. Including nearly my entire family.

[freedomcrusader]

Soon the upstate area, especially Broome and surronding counties is going to be left with nothing but the elderly and be a giant medicare community.

Welcome to Pittsburgh's nightmare! PA is also an extemely business unfriendly state, and 2 terms of Tom Ridge who had a Republican legislature did nothing to change it.

IBM had a small presence here in Pittsburgh, of which my wife was a part. Last summer they layed off over 1/2 of their people here, including my wife, and moved many jobs to -- drumroll please -- North Carolina!

We were planning on having my wife stay home with our son anyway, so it forced the issue plus the unemployment $$$ came in handy.

[Phantom Lord]

IBM had a small presence here in Pittsburgh, of which my wife was a part. Last summer they layed off over 1/2 of their people here, including my wife, and moved many jobs to -- drumroll please -- North Carolina!

She should have tried to get a transfer. It's great down here.

[from occupied ga]

I know the answer!!

Raise taxes on property owners, instute a 25% county income tax, and tax businesses on their gross rather than their net. Then take some of that money, hire a slew of additional county apparatchicks and use them to staff outreach programs that give the best welfare benefits in the world to worthless lazy scum. Use the rest of the money to pay the welfare benefits to the people who won't work , but will vote democratic, and who support "green" initiatives.

Oh I forgot - that's what the majority of New Yorkers already want to do. I used to think that if you were giving the East coast an enema you'd insert the tube in Baltimore. Now I'm sure NYC would be the appropriate spot

[freedomcrusader]

The only problem is that my job is here, and for now, she wants to stay with me :-)

Of course, I could have investigated transferring too, I suppose, but we're tired of moving and I love my job.

Plus, the exodus from Pittsburgh and surrounding regions means my commute will only get easier! Also, CCW here is $19 every 5 years with no courses required and few restrictions. For now.

[Tiger_eye]

"The best hope for Upstate New York is to become more attractive to immigrants so it can replace the native population that is leaving."

NO! That is the worse thing that can happen.

They keep loading us up with foreigners who cannot find jobs. We can't even find jobs.

They have dumped thousands of Bosnians, Russians and now Bantu's from somewhere in Africa in one city in NYS.

Leave us alone.

[Xenalyte]

Only two other major metropolitan areas - Honolulu and El Paso, Texas - lost larger percentages of their populations to migration.

Not surprising - El Paso is the second-nastiest city I've been to. (Amarillo was the nastiest.)

[Phantom Lord]

NC is a very gun friendly state. You can carry without a permit if the firearm is in view, but need a permit for a CCW. Easy to get.

[lawdude]

"I left Rochester, NY. in 1998."

I moved to Rochester in 1971 and left after 1 year. I found the area to be pretty but the people......woof. What a bunch of wierdos. My college grad neighbor kept telling me how much higher the mountains in NY were than those "sand" hills in Arizona? Even after showing her a map with elevations shown, she would not believe AZ was other than sand and wild indians.

She had never been west of Eire, PA and had no desire to see the world. And she was not unique.

One year was enough for me.

[mass55th]

Bringing 60 lbs. of Zweigle pop open on return flight to LV.

Born and raised in Rochester here, but have lived between Rome & Utica for the past 30 years. We're Zweigle Hots fans too. I usually have to go back to Rochester to get them since they don't even carry them at the Wegman's in Syracuse anymore. The one thing I miss about Rochester is Don & Bob's. They used to serve Zweigle's skinless hotdogs there.They tore the Don & Bob's Restaurant on Monroe Avenue down a few years ago. Fortunately I have a recipe for their hot sauce if anyone is interested. I'd be more than happy to send it to you if you Freep mail me.

[crescentbeach]

The Rochester area has the same retiree situation as Broome County. One can only wonder what will happen as those people age and die off.

People there are so used to stagnant real estate values and horrific property taxes that they don't see that they are being left behind economically.

Despite the taxes, there isn't money to keep the main library open weekends during the summer. Wouldn't want those poor kids off the streets reading, would we?

I miss back home, but don't see property ownership there as a wise decision.

[chris1]

The liberals. the taxes, the gun control, the gays, the immigrants, the insane home prices, the insurance costs, the regulations, why would anyone ever come here??? Why would anyone want to stay other than the illegals and wall streeters???

[jpl]

I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for snowy central New York, having gone to Syracuse. It's unfortunate that so many people are leaving.

[Behind Liberal Lines]

Waitaminnit...you left New York State for being liberal and moved to...Seattle?!?!

Talk about "out of the frying pan..."

;-)

[Behind Liberal Lines]

I now live in the meanest city in America.....Las Vegas

oops. never mind.

[bc2]

yeah, I am thinking about moving to Montana, Idaho, or Wyoming. Hopefully I can travel out there in the spring and check it out.

If you folks want to get together when RIS returns, I can arrange a Zweigel's party!

regards...

[PigRigger]

Upstate NY, home of the infamous Genesee Cream Ale.

Went to Oneonta State, I still have nightmares about all the "Genny Screamers" I endured.

[Phantom Lord]

Get yourself some Genny 12 Horse!

[RIGHT IN SEATTLE]

Genny Cream Ale...........

You just gave me a stomach ache!

[NativeNewYorker]